This forum means different things to diffeent people. To some, who may well not be able to leave their house, for what ever reason, this is their social time. To others, it's strictly a place to learn about computers, or try and find advice about a problem they have incurred. Point being, it's different things to different folks. The fact it's allowed to BE all those things in my opinion is what maks this forum the best there is. You think OT posts are a waste, skip right on by them. You think the numbers are a waste, don't look at them. But don't start taking away things that to another may be of importance to them, regardless of how trivial YOU think it is. I pesonally don't care what my post totals are, but someone else may take pride in something he thinks is important, even if only in his own mind.