>"That thing isn't going to cut it"
>
>What is it that makes you think that that HSF is not
>sufficient?
>
>
>This review (FWIW) put it this way ...
>
>"The Asus X-Mars is better than the cooler you get with retail
>AMD processors, but it’s not as good as the competition."
>http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2005/12/24/AMD-CPU-Cooler-Roundup/p4
>
>So if its better then stock, then is that to say that a stock
>AMD HSF is going to reach the same temps, or higher, as bobbo
>is seeing when run WFO?


Duh because his temps are ridiculous perhaps.

Do you have an FX-60 or are you just sticking your nose in for something to do?

Bobbo runs DC projects so his unit is under constant load which also keeps stock HSF stuff somewhat taxed.

I have one and as you can clearly see from my posts the temps should be way lower.