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_Chewy_Sun Nov-05-06 08:54 PM
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"Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"


  

          

The debacle is finally over.

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pakoSun Nov-05-06 09:40 PM
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#1. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>The debacle is finally over.
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>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15567363/


I expect he will either die of old age or be murdered before he is hanged for his crimes.

  

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bobwSun Nov-05-06 10:05 PM
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#3. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>The debacle is finally over.
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>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15567363/
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>I expect he will either die of old
>age or be murdered before he is hanged for his crimes.
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Confining Rudolph Hess in prison in virtual solitary confinement for 40 years from his incarceration in 1947 until his death in 1987 ,wasn't a problem ,and IMO a like punishment for Sadam is in order . I am, and have always been a death penalty opponent. I will not argue with those that are pro death penalty .


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nightlyreaderSun Nov-05-06 10:15 PM
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#5. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Big differences between Hess and Saddam.

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bobwSun Nov-05-06 10:36 PM
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#6. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>Big differences between Hess and Saddam.

How so ? A man that was implicated in the murder of 6 million Jews,and countless others.However I expected that someone would want to butt heads .

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nightlyreaderMon Nov-06-06 03:57 PM
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>>Big differences between Hess and Saddam.
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>How so ? A man that was implicated in the murder of 6 million
>Jews,and countless others.However I expected that someone
>would want to butt heads .

Hess was found not guilty on counts three and four. Specifically, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Some have speculated it had to do with his plane ride across the channel. We may never know.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergIndictments.html#Verdicts

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#18. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>>>Big differences between Hess and Saddam.
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>>How so ? A man that was implicated in the murder of 6
>million
>>Jews,and countless others.However I expected that someone
>>would want to butt heads .
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>Hess was found not guilty on counts three and four.
>Specifically, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Some
>have speculated it had to do with his plane ride across the
>channel. We may never know.
>
>http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergIndictments.html#Verdicts

I am well aware of that Bill ! However I have always believed he was guilty of all charges ,as well as the rest of the murdering bastards, Thanks !

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nightlyreaderMon Nov-06-06 05:53 PM
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#20. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Don't misconstrue my comments to mean I think he was innocent.

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rheadabovewaterMon Nov-06-06 10:48 PM
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#21. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Bob, I think you just like to disagree!!

I once saw an interview with a retired FBI man. He said he was all for the death penalty, because once you hear a tape of a woman begging for her life, knowing she is going to be killed, you never get over it and you WANT that sucker to die.

BTW isn't Saddam able to appeal? I can see that lasting forever....


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npmclMon Nov-06-06 10:55 PM
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#22. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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It goes to the Appeal Court automatically. The other complication is that he is also standing trial on another charge.

  

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#2. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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The debacle is finally over.

Really?

  

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#4. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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To bad they just didn't drop a grenade in his spider hole!!!

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#19. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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When a British government minister was asked in Parliament towards the end of WWII what instructions had been given to British soldiers if they should find Hitler alive, he replied (to loud laughter) that he was satisfied to leave the decision to the British soldier concerned.

  

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#7. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>Really?

What makes you think it's not over? I was getting sick of hearing about Saddam's tyrades in the courtroom. I guess his defiant days are over.

  

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#8. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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It still has to go the Court of Appeal (not that I think that has chance of succeeding), he's also supposed to stand trial on another charge and even if his part of it is actually over, the repercussions of his trial will go on into the future.

  

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#9. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>It still has to go the Court of Appeal (not that I think that
>has chance of succeeding), he's also supposed to stand trial
>on another charge and even if his part of it is actually over,
>the repercussions of his trial will go on into the future.


I also suspect the appeals court will shoot it down before his lawyers can cry fowl. But what will be the point of having him stand trial for the other charge you speak of? What's the worse they can do, considering he's been given a death sentence? Hang him a 2nd time?

  

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pakoMon Nov-06-06 01:53 AM
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#10. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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I also suspect the appeals court will shoot it down before his lawyers can cry fowl. But what will be the point of having him stand trial for the other charge you speak of? What's the worse they can do, considering he's been given a death sentence? Hang him a 2nd time?


No. He will only be hung once. The other trials are to find him guilty (or not guilty) for other crimes he is being accused of that were not brought against him at the first trial. It's just a process of law, and a mater of record, and supposedly will give undisputed closure for his deeds

  

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npmclMon Nov-06-06 08:25 AM
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#11. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Mon Nov-06-06 08:49 AM by npmcl

  

          

Maybe it's the Iraqi system but people who followed the trial fully say that he wasn't actually pronounced guilty, the only announcement was of execution. On BBC radio news this morning it said that his defence lawyers say that they have still not yet received official notification of his guilt.



  

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#12. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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And isn't it strange that the announcement of his forthcoming death came just prior to the U.S. Elections?


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#13. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Devious, DavyWavy.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

i heard that on the radio, too, noreen; in that judicial system, a death sentence automatically goes for appeal to 9 judges who can take their time deciding. it could be days or even years. i missed what they said about those other trials.

  

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#15. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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>And isn't it strange that the announcement of his forthcoming
>death came just prior to the U.S. Elections?

I don't think it was a surprise or strange to at least 99% of the populace that actually cared one way or the other as to what the verdict would be ! As to having any effect on the election out come " hogwash, as much was said by the Democrats on Tim Russets meet the press, this past Sunday morning.

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#14. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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The interesting thing about those tirades is how "religious" he suddenly became. When he was in power, he was a big opponent of religious Muslims. After all, he didn't like competing with another power (God/Allah/whatever). But now that he's facing justice, he suddenly holds himself up as a pious Muslim being persecuted for his beliefs by the evil American's puppet government. What's sadder is how many Iraqis actually seem to fall for this ploy.

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ShellyMon Nov-06-06 03:05 PM
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#16. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Did anyone capable of thought think Saddam would be acquitted?

The verdict is a surprise to no one, including Saddam himself. Knowing his conviction and execution was beyond doubt, he turned to being concerned about his place in Arab history. Thus his attempt to appear pius, strong, defiant, and unfairly tried.

The timing of the verdict, though probably manipulated for Bush, is also of no consequence. The earliest possible execution is next Spring, but more likely at least a year away. There is now talk of postponing his appeal until after he is tried on other charges not already covered in his conviction.

Normally, I am against the death penalty, but I make an exception here. The climate in Iraq is such that if he were just imprisoned, political changes could see him freed by a future Iraqi government, and put back in power. Better to hang him with a quality rope.

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#23. "RE: Saddam sentenced to death by hanging"
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Very good points made by both Shelly & Jason. I have to agree.

  

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