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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 12:00 AM
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"Political registration question...."
Tue Nov-07-06 12:02 AM by Ed W.

          

I registered to vote as soon as I turned 18, but I was already in the Air Force then. I registered the same as my Dad was because that was about what you did back then. I have never seen a need to change it from Republican to whatever.

I have never voted straight across the board in any election and it will be the same tomorrow. What benefit is there to change to independent? I see no benefit, what am I missing? The politicians continue to call or knock on the door from all parties.

Ed W.

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 12:06 AM
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#1. "RE: Political registration question...."
In response to Ed W. (Reply # 0)


          

LOL, Ex Mayor Rudy called just as I posted this message, they are everywhere.

Ed W.

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KJTTue Nov-07-06 12:36 AM
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#2. "RE: Political registration question...."
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As I understand it, in the Primary election, as an Independent you will only be able to vote on issues, not the Republican candidates, nor the Democratic candidates who will run for election in the General election. Though I suppose it is possible that there could be multiple Independents running against each other, I've never see this.

Jim.

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 04:16 AM
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#3. "RE: Political registration question...."
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That is the only real thing I have seen that happens in the primary. The general election appears to be no different between them.

Ed W.

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EdGreeneTue Nov-07-06 06:20 AM
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#4. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I vote for the same reason I served: it's the American thing to do. No issue, no candidate-no party could ever make me not vote.
I believe it is a stain on your mortal soul not to vote, keeping in mind nearly a million souls have perished in war for us to have those rights.

  

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npmclTue Nov-07-06 08:11 AM
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#5. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Obviously this election doesn't involve me but I do agree with you. Many people have died or suffered in other ways over centuries to obtain this right for us and it's seems to me to be absolutely immoral to reject their sacrifice.

  

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jasonlevineTue Nov-07-06 02:29 PM
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#13. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I agree. And more and more I've come to realize a fallacy that I think keeps many Americans from voting. You see, a lot of American's don't like the Republican or Democratic candidates. So they think that they don't have any options. The thought of voting for a third party candidate might cross their mind for a second, but they dismiss that as "throwing their vote away." So they stay home instead.

However, if voting third party is throwing your vote away, isn't staying home even worse? Your vote doesn't need to go to the winning candidate to make a difference. Imagine if a third party would, all of a sudden, get 25% of the vote. Sure, they wouldn't win, but they would make a strong enough showing to rattle a few cages in the Democrat and Republican parties. And the ideals that that party represented would likely get some measure of adoption into the Democrat and Republican platforms.

So today if you don't like either of your choices, don't stay home. Vote for a third party candidate who best matches your views, even if that candidate doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

The only wasted vote is one that hasn't been cast.

- Jason Levine
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JordanTue Nov-07-06 02:49 PM
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#14. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote: 'Your vote doesn't need to go to the winning candidate to make a difference..' Remember BJ's 43% of the votes thanks to Ross? I think it made a significant negative difference to the political atmosphere of the United States.

  

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EdGreeneTue Nov-07-06 05:54 PM
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#20. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
I agree. And more and more I've come to realize a fallacy
that I think keeps many Americans from voting. You see, a lot
of American's don't like the Republican or Democratic
candidates. So they think that they don't have any options.
The thought of voting for a third party candidate might cross
their mind for a second, but they dismiss that as "throwing
their vote away." So they stay home instead.

However, if voting third party is throwing your vote away,
isn't staying home even worse?

I have missed voting only one time since 1960. Otherwise, I vote-as the saying goes: "...as if my life depended on it".

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Your vote doesn't need to go to the winning candidate to make a difference. Imagine if a
third party would, all of a sudden, get 25% of the vote.
Sure, they wouldn't win, but they would make a strong enough
showing to rattle a few cages in the Democrat and Republican parties. And the ideals that that party represented would
likely get some measure of adoption into the Democrat and
Republican platforms.

Let me shock you: I have said before and will reiterate it here: the Repulbican Party we know today will become that "third party" in the future. By 2016, today's Republican party will have split, ultraconservative and moderates: those against anything not described (as they see it) in the Bible and those who hold conservative fiscal views but are "liberal" on social issues.
The "old party" will constitute bout 18-20% of the voting electorate but their votes will have absolutely no effect in Presidential elections in that the ten-maybe eleven "Megalopolis" regions will control upwards of 70% of the electoral college.

Godbye "Red States"-hello Megalopolis.

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So today if you don't like either of your choices, don't stay home. Vote for a third party candidate who best matches your views, even if that candidate doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

The only wasted vote is one that hasn't been cast.

Being me, I have tried to imagine ~not~ voting, remebering how many millions of folks who want to be here and have the simple privilege of voting (remember the Iraqi, holding up their purple fingers?), the tens of thousands who paid a price trying to escape Communism for freedom and the price women and millions of blacks paid for the vote. My guts would ache for days knowing I had pissed away my vote because someone else pissed me off.

Besides: there is ALWAYS some twit in EVERY election I simply do not like: and since I cannot personally urinate on their slacks or in their boots, I do it in the booth: heh-heh-heh!

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 03:39 PM
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#16. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Mr Greene, stop hijacking my thread and stick to the actual topic.

I said nothing about voting, of course everyone should as we all fought for that right.

My question was what difference does registering for the different parties make when it comes to actually voting.


Ed W.

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EdGreeneTue Nov-07-06 06:57 PM
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#24. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Mr Greene, stop hijacking my thread and stick to the actual topic.

Wasn't me. Topic changed way back in post #2.

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I said nothing about voting, of course everyone should as we all fought for that right.

you're b|tching up the wrong tree. I did not change the topic.

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My question was what difference does registering for the different parties make when it comes to actually voting.
Get over it! Topics change; that is they "morph", go from one subject/thing to another.

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 07:08 PM
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#26. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Get over it! Topics change; that is they "morph", go from one subject/thing to another.


Follow your own advice and leave others topics alone, you are the mouthy one always saying stay on topic.

See why no questions get answered, because of your diarrhea of the mouth.

Ed W.

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EdGreeneWed Nov-08-06 03:01 AM
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#43. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Get over it! Topics change; that is they "morph", go from one subject/thing to another.


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Follow your own advice and leave others topics alone, you are the mouthy one always saying stay on topic.

See why no questions get answered, because of your diarrhea of the mouth.

You're sounding more like bobw every day!
I know you just had to get that rant off your chest, tell me a thing or two, give me a piece of your mind.

Are you through? finished? Kaput? Fini?
You cannot win a duel with me, not with words at least.

  

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#44. "RE: Political registration question...."
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>You cannot win a duel with me, not with words at least.

There's some who can!!!

Dave101

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#46. "RE: Political registration question...."
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If the Dem's don't win something, I'm moving to Venezuela, can I get PCQandA from there?

  

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EdGreeneWed Nov-08-06 01:11 PM
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#49. "RE: Political registration question...."
In response to Dave101 (Reply # 44)
Wed Nov-08-06 01:12 PM by EdGreene

          

Quote:
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>>You cannot win a duel with me, not with words at least.

>
Quote:
There's some who can!!!

You? Bring it on!

  

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Ed W.Wed Nov-08-06 03:36 AM
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#45. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
Are you through? finished? Kaput? Fini?
You cannot win a duel with me, not with words at least.


Idiot TROLL.

Ed W.

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Paul DTue Nov-07-06 09:03 AM
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#6. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Public voting to choose candidates is an interesting concept. Here they are mainly chosen by paid-up party members. I'm not sure which method would result in better (or should I say worse) candidates.



Paul D

  

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npmclTue Nov-07-06 09:11 AM
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#7. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Paul, is it correct that potential voters are fined if they don't vote in Australia?

  

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Paul DTue Nov-07-06 10:41 AM
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#8. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Voting is compulsory here, yes.

http://www.slate.com/id/2108832/

Thanks to BobW for this link




Paul D

  

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#9. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
I believe it is a stain on your mortal soul not to vote, keeping in mind nearly a million souls have perished in war for us to have those rights.



i am with you all the way on that one, ed. tho are souls mortal?

.................

J/K, J/K!!!!!

  

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#11. "RE: Political registration question...."
In response to sophie tucker (Reply # 9)
Tue Nov-07-06 01:12 PM by EdGreene

          

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Quote:
I believe it is a stain on your mortal soul not
>to vote, keeping in mind nearly a million souls have perished
>in war for us to have those rights.
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>

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>i am with you all the way on that one, ed. tho are souls
>mortal?

Not my comment but yes, one would certainly hope their (fill in the blank_______) is immortal, but that too flies in the face of the reality of the universe.

I suspect if one believes their "soul" is created by (I’ll call it) "the omnipotent administrator", and counter to the Biblical or Koranic concepts or ideas on death; one's own entity continues on after the death of the flesh and we will live forever "...in (the) sprit".

Here is where people have not thought out "afterdeath": many people believe they will return as perfect "flesh": unchanging-immortal. Others think of an immortal spirit. "Spirit" is more like it since spending eternity as a perfect "being" of flesh would bore me to: shall I say it? Death.
How many perfect 12 lb Bass could a person catch, or how many stringers of fat-delicious catfish before you (I) got bored to tears? Or to make love to how many virgins in a day or eat all the chocolate one wants without somewhere along the way seeking death?
Me? I have dared death: under 61 parachute canopies and 22 months of combat.

But my mind, that which I would want to have always, allows me to soar above the clouds: if I want, my mind lets me stand on the Moon-unaided. My mind lets me think of stars: not just stars in the sky, but standing on stars, or whisking me, on a whim-to far off galaxies: we cannot do that in the flesh.

There are Spring mornings, days so perfect we wish they could last forever.
But they too vanish-as Cervantes has Don Quixote say: "in a trice", leaving behind the noise and stink of reality.
They are so fleeting-those perfect days in the flesh and so an undying "spirit" must be better after all.

  

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#12. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Whew, Ed, I had to read through that twice and slowly -- a primer on the consciousness of death and immortality? Way deep. But maybe God, being that He is the bona fide center of the spiritual universe, has the "walking on stars" franchise all sewed up. Anyhow, when my time comes enough will have been enough -- I'd much prefer to be dust in a solar wind.

  

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#10. "RE: Political registration question...."
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We should do that here too.

  

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#15. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Sadly, those of us who are fortunate to live in countries where voting is our birthright often place little value on that privilege. Thousands fought and died to win that privilege and to defend it against those who would take it away, but some of our fellow citizens never think about that.

Look at the new democracies that have emerged more recently and you will find a citizenry that votes at a much higher rate than we do. But I'm not sure I would want a forced vote. If a person is too lazy and uncaring to want to vote, is their uninformed opinion worth anything?

Shelly

  

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#17. "RE: Political registration question...."
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>But I'm not sure I would want a forced vote. If
>a person is too lazy and uncaring to want to vote, is their
>uninformed opinion worth anything?

Consider the fact that there's always going to be a certain percentage of people voting based on pure emotion or perception of their favorite candidate. I always think about my mother who came to this country in her mid 40s and struggled to learn the English language and rarely reads the newspaper. When I asked her why she did not vote for Al Gore (back in 2001), she responded she didn't like his demeanor. That's all she really had on him - extremely poor reason to vote. I suspect this isn't unusual. Personally, I think there's a large population of immigrants (with limited fluency) who are 1-issue voters.

  

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#18. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Or party affiliation.

  

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#19. "RE: Political registration question...."
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If a person is too lazy and uncaring to want to vote, is their uninformed opinion worth anything?


Are the "informed" opinions of many voluntary voters worth any more?



Paul D

  

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#21. "RE: Political registration question...."
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If a person is too lazy and uncaring to want to vote, is their uninformed opinion worth anything?

Yes, because "the vote" is the recognition and acceptance by the people of the precious institution we accept and call "Democracy".
Votes not cast and worse, votes cast but not counted, demean the institution.

Serving was one way I demonstrated my devotion to my country: voting is the one enduring way I can and do demostrate my utter loyalty to the soul of my country-tis of thee.

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 06:27 PM
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#22. "RE: Political registration question...."
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What was the topic of this thread? So far, Jim was the only one to address that. Go start your own voting topic so maybe this can remain on topic for once.

Ed W.

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#23. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Tue Nov-07-06 06:53 PM by EdGreene

          

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What was the topic of this thread? So far, Jim was the only one to address that. Go start your own voting topic so maybe this can remain on topic for once.

No you didn't!
Have the nerve to b|tch someone out that is, especially me, since the "topic" changed way back with post #2.

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 07:00 PM
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#25. "RE: Political registration question...."
In response to EdGreene (Reply # 23)
Tue Nov-07-06 07:03 PM by Ed W.

          

You and a few others here seem to think you run this place. You know what the damn topic is but you want to always make them YOUR topic. You are a huge reason this Forum is going to hell fast just because you can't start your own thread, you have to hijack every one and have a little old hens meeting talking amongst yourselves.

Post number 2 said nothing about VOTING, and I will damn well tell you anything I please. Keep your BS to your own topics.

Your damn post #4 took it off topic, take a hike and start your own threads.

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ShellyTue Nov-07-06 07:24 PM
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#27. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Actually, Jim answered your question very nicely in Post# 2. The only thing I could add is that in some states you can vote in the primary for a Republican or Democratic candidate even if you are a registered Independent. I don't know if that is so in your state or not.

When I moved to Florida I changed my affiliation from Republican to Independent, so I don't bother with Primary elections anymore.

Shelly

  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 07:47 PM
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#28. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Yes Shelly, Jim did a nice job in answering the question I asked. I was just looking forward to maybe some other opinions as you just made. Looking at the choices today made it seem like the candidates were pretty well the same ones in the Independent choices. I will follow up on what NY rules are and see how the primaries are run. I do know that the voting in the primaries here are very very low in numbers.

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#29. "RE: Political registration question...."
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:clap:

You and a few others here seem to think you run this place. You know what the damn topic is but you want to always make them YOUR topic. You are a huge reason this Forum is going to hell fast just because you can't start your own thread, you have to hijack every one and have a little old hens meeting talking amongst yourselves

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#30. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quite a display, Bob. Toss in a couple of Santa's and you can reuse it at Christmas.

  

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#31. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I really do fear for the blood-pressure of some forum members, why on earth do they take it all so seriously.

  

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#32. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Tue Nov-07-06 10:45 PM by Ed W.

          

I asked a question because I wanted information. Ed and you and James and a few others here take great joy in hijacking every thread they can and laugh about it as you have said before. You can all go start your little threads and pat each other on the back and quit ruining this forum. Take a look at most recent threads and they all end as trash.

Stick to the thread topic or keep your mouths shut. We have lost way to many good forum members and this is exactly what does it.

Your smart a$$ comment above is a perfect example.

Ed W.

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#33. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Maybe you have a point.

I wonder if there are others here who feel that we whom you've singled-out as spoilers are ruining the OT forum.

  

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#34. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I've had enough of this. You have absolutely no right to tell these people what to do. It's not "your thread" (you only started it). It's a public forum and these people have every right to comment and/or start side discussions. In this case it wasn't even that far off base.

How many times have I seen you exert your opinion (even to admonish people) in threads that others have started? You have the right to do that as well. If you can't handle it, then it is you who should be keeping your mouth shut.

What truly makes forums/newsgroups/mailing lists go to Hell is a bunch of complaining about what other people are posting.

>I asked a question because I wanted information. Ed and you
>and James and a few others here take great joy in hijacking
>every thread they can and laugh about it as you have said
>before. You can all go start your little threads and pat each
>other on the back and quit ruining this forum. Take a look at
>most recent threads and they all end as trash.
>
>Stick to the thread topic or keep your mouths shut. We have
>lost way to many good forum members and this is exactly what
>does it.
>
>Your smart a$$ comment above is a perfect example.

Grogan

  

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Bob HTue Nov-07-06 11:57 PM
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#37. "RE: Political registration question...."
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But you have to admit there is at least one who admonishes all to stick to the thread and don't make it about him. Until it's convenient for the opposite to occur, then any change is apparently OK.

My reason for keeping my thoughts to myself mostly.



  

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Ed W.Tue Nov-07-06 11:59 PM
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#38. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
I've had enough of this. You have absolutely no right to tell these people what to do. It's not "your thread" (you only started it). It's a public forum and these people have every right to comment and/or start side discussions. In this case it wasn't even that far off base.

How many times have I seen you exert your opinion (even to admonish people) in threads that others have started? You have the right to do that as well. If you can't handle it, then it is you who should be keeping your mouth shut.

What truly makes forums/newsgroups/mailing lists go to Hell is a bunch of complaining about what other people are posting.


So, Mike, I can make any comments I wish to that are not the original thread comment right? If someone asks a question about cars, I can just start posting crap about the moon and Africa, or maybe Religion then?

Take a look at the last few months and see how down hill this place has gone and the fighting that is taking place. I 100% agree with the fact that they can make any comments they wish about my thread topic as long as it is THE topic. What I am sick of is the fact that it is not the topic and it makes the thread worthless.

Take a look at Mr Greene's threads where he constantly says stay on topic, he never gets admonished by the Mods.

What good is a forum that you can't get answers and related opinions because a certain group always takes over the threads and you get 150 worthless arguments as the thread goes on.

What happened to the common courtesy that used to be here that someone would post a comment and then say I don't want to hijack this thread so I will start a new one. That is how a forum is run, you know it and I know it, but then again you have your own way of answering things and don't follow the forum rules yourself. But we have to bow down to you as THAT IS YOUR WAY.

Why do I have to keep my mouth shut in a quiet thread I started and which Jim was nice enough to post a reply and then it went to hell with nothing to do with what I asked? I asked the question, I can respond to replies in MY thread. This was not done in someone else's thread, it was one I started.

I can take it, it is the gutless letting the forum die that I hate and no one wants to see it get better.

Ed W.

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#41. "RE: Political registration question...."
In response to Ed W. (Reply # 38)


  

          

>So, Mike, I can make any comments I wish to that are not the
>original thread comment right? If someone asks a question
>about cars, I can just start posting crap about the moon and
>Africa, or maybe Religion then?
>

In this case I see the comment and resulting offshoot as being related (spawned by a related thought, anyway), though it wasn't any sort of answer to your question. It did not need to ruin your thread. You got some topical replies, and any degeneration here was started by you.

We've always been this way. Side discussions have always evolved in threads. You remember the old days (winmag, pcnineoneone), in fact we only had one forum and there was banter even in computer help threads. We didn't tell people to stay on topic or keep their mouths shut. I sure don't like to see that happening now.

Sure, I'm well familiar with Mr. Greene's antics but he's not always out of turn. Yes, I've also seen him tell people to stay on topic, but I recall that started in retaliation for the same. I don't often have much to say in political threads, nor do I have time to follow all threads in here, but I do generally peek in to see that there's no trouble, and sometimes I do read the whole discussion. He's got just as much right to comment as any other. I have to say that some of the attacks I'm seeing are unfair. Even when he's being perfectly reasonable, he's getting flack.

>Take a look at the last few months and see how down hill this
>place has gone and the fighting that is taking place. I 100%
>agree with the fact that they can make any comments they wish
>about my thread topic as long as it is THE topic. What I am
>sick of is the fact that it is not the topic and it makes the
>thread worthless.
>

Fighting in the last few months? I'm sorry to say that I'm laughing a little about that. There's always been fighting and bickering in here and I doubt it's ever going to stop. I've said this somewhere before, but I think there are probably people who come here to get their daily dose of clashing opinions as the main attraction

It did actually tie in to the topic here though. (Note Jason's interpretation of it)

>What good is a forum that you can't get answers and related
>opinions because a certain group always takes over the threads
>and you get 150 worthless arguments as the thread goes on.
>

I'm not saying the petty arguing is a good thing, but other opinions/comments should be expected. Someone also might have a particular train of thought inspired by your topic. It's not always going to turn out exactly how you expect it to. Perhaps among the 150 comments that are worthless to you, there will be something worthwhile.

>What happened to the common courtesy that used to be here that
>someone would post a comment and then say I don't want to
>hijack this thread so I will start a new one. That is how a
>forum is run, you know it and I know it, but then again you
>have your own way of answering things and don't follow the
>forum rules yourself. But we have to bow down to you as THAT
>IS YOUR WAY.

OK, sometimes there could be more courtesy in that respect. This thread isn't a very good example of it though. I doubt the comment was intended to hijack your thread.

Nobody bows down to me. As you have no doubt seen, people are free to have it out with me just like any other asshole in here. There is no need to refer to forum rules. (I don't think any of the rules are the issue here anyway).

>
>Why do I have to keep my mouth shut in a quiet thread I
>started and which Jim was nice enough to post a reply and then
>it went to hell with nothing to do with what I asked? I asked
>the question, I can respond to replies in MY thread. This was
>not done in someone else's thread, it was one I started.
>

Why should you be telling other people to keep their mouths shut, is the real question, instead of this circular argument here. Those were your own words. Certainly you can reply in your own thread, they can reply in your thread and I can reply as well. We all seem to do that.

>I can take it, it is the gutless letting the forum die that I
>hate and no one wants to see it get better.
>

The forum is not dying. Last I checked people were still carrying on and posting. See it get better? Those that are here are the ones making it the way it is. Those who are not here are no longer influencing. Online communities are a living thing. We can try to steer it a little, but we can't really control it. It wouldn't be much fun with iron fisted posting rules. We wouldn't have much of a community if we were like that.

Grogan

  

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#36. "RE: Political registration question...."
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>Quite a display, Bob. Toss in a couple of Santa's and you can
>reuse it at Christmas.

Glad you like it ! I just may do that .

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#42. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
You and a few others here seem to think you run this place.
You know what the damn topic is but you want to always make them YOUR topic. You are a huge reason this Forum is going to hell fast just because you can't start your own thread,

What cabbage truck did you just fall off? I start threads all the time.

Quote:
...you have to hijack every one and have a little old hens meeting talking amongst yourselves.

sound abit like jealousy to me; or chidish petulence.

Quote:
Post number 2 said nothing about VOTING, and I will damn well tell you anything I please. Keep your BS to your own topics.

Your damn post #4 took it off topic, take a hike and start your own threads.

I do and will.

  

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#47. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Stay on topic I T

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#48. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
Stay on topic

I will if you will, especially since it is you who went way-way the hell OT in your feeble attempt to chastise me.

  

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#50. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Lamentable -- yet another invaluable thread ends in trash with the flag of bullshit flying high. We may as well post the obituary:

PCQ&A Off Topic Lounge, died 2006.

A noble effort smothered in it's cradle by a troika of elderly narcissists (a gracious English lady, a zealous and often mercurial advocate of tons of stuff, and a drunken Canadian) each of whom insisted on changing the subject. They were joined by a few "others," lesser offenders who shall remain nameless, in this dastardly plot to invariably stray off topic in the Off Topic Lounge, and they succeeded this infamous day in driving members who were justly fixated on order, discipline and courtesy, around the bend of reason and over the cliff of keeping things in proper perspective.

R.I.P. PCQ&A.

  

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#51. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
Lamentable -- yet another invaluable thread ends in trash with the flag of bullshit flying high. We may as well post the obituary:

PCQ&A Off Topic Lounge, died 2006.

A noble effort smothered in it's cradle by a troika of elderly narcissists (a gracious English lady, a zealous and often mercurial advocate of tons of stuff, and a drunken Canadian) each of whom insisted on changing the subject. They were joined by a few "others," lesser offenders who shall remain nameless, in this dastardly plot to invariably stray off topic in the Off Topic Lounge, and they succeeded this infamous day in driving members who were justly fixated on order,
discipline and courtesy, around the bend of reason and over the cliff of keeping things in proper perspective.

R.I.P. PCQ&A.

Stop it James: you're killing me man!

  

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#52. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Isn't that obituary Off-Topic?

Bill K.



  

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#53. "RE: Political registration question...."
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And obviously premature...

  

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#56. "RE: Political registration question...."
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>And obviously premature...

James can we talk about our "butt buddy" partnership here or do you think BobW will have a heart attack? If the forum dies, where will we go to strategerize our "butt buddy" buddy-up system?

  

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#57. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
James can we talk about our "butt buddy" partnership here or do you think BobW will have a heart attack? If the forum dies, we'll have nowhere to strategize our "butt buddy" attack plans.


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#61. "RE: Political registration question...."
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>>And obviously premature...
>
>James can we talk about our "butt buddy" partnership here or
>do you think BobW will have a heart attack? If the
>forum dies, where will we go to strategerize our "butt buddy"
>buddy-up system?

As I said, I try to give as good as I get ! Now are you and James both HIV positive or is it full blown Aids. You are obviously sick in some way .And BTW,after what I have been through in this 72 years,nothing you or your buddy could say or do would shock my decorum ! Get well soon.

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#58. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Don’t write the obituary yet, there is a possible solution!, maybe a 3rd forum dedicated to the pooch-lipped hash-holes would save it..

  

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#59. "RE: Political registration question...."
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OK. For Christ's sake, you present yourself here as a man who has achieved better than sixty years, but you evince yourself intellectually as a child.

Halloween is over. I think that I said this once before, you give me the creeps -- let me be.

Talk to someone else.

I want no further discourse!

  

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#60. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Quote:
OK. For Christ's sake, you present yourself here as a man who has achieved better than sixty years, but you evince yourself intellectually as a child.

Halloween is over. I think that I said this once before, you give me the creeps -- let me be.

Talk to someone else.

I want no further discourse!

James


When you're awarded exclusive rights to designate your correspondents, then will I honor your request. In the meantime, LOOKOUT! You may not see me creeping up in the darkness of the night when you are fast asleep, and when you are least expecting it and shower you with shivers.

  

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#62. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I asked that you honor my request.

I understand there are no restraining orders issued or enforced here.

You disturb me, and I ask you, please, let me be.

I'll not respond to you again -- please, return the favor.

  

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#63. "RE: Political registration question...."
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haha you guys crack me up. Keep wondering what in the world you guys are smoking? Or maybe sniffing? Is it contact cement???

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#64. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I'm on liquid oxygen, supplied by American Home Patient. I think Jazzy is on liquid too, but not oxygen.

  

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#65. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Molson Dry is my poison. 5.5%. alcohol.

One of them and I'm ready for ten more. Now I'm ready for bed. It's been a long but happy day. Reason has prevailed -- for the moment, anyway.

  

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#66. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Heheh cool duo!!! I'm on Blue, like in labatts blue.

Cool site: http://www.molsondry.com/

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#67. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Where do you buy your's? At the Beer Store? Stupid Ontario bureaucracy.

In Quebec we can get beer at any old store, and if we display a firearm, we can clean out the cash and the chip rack at the same time.

  

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#68. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Ya, wasn't hard to figure that out. We also can get beer at a few corner stores in small towns nearby after hours similar to what you do in Quebec. Damn got distracted & went the hell off topic,oh oh!!! My bad.

Dave101

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#35. "RE: Political registration question...."
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That's the way it is in Missouri. Although we don't have to register, just state which party you wish to vote on in the primary.



  

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#39. "RE: Political registration question...."
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we don't have to register, just state which party you wish to vote on in the primary.


Thank goodness it isn't that simple here. There are controls in place that keep one political party from having its members turn out en masse to vote for their preferred candidate in the other political party's Primary. This ensures that both political parties are able to nominate and vote on the individuals who will be the party representative in the General Election without manipulation/fraud by the other party.

Jim.

  

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Ed W.Wed Nov-08-06 01:16 AM
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#40. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Thank goodness it isn't that simple here. There are controls in place that keep one political party from having its members turn out en masse to vote for their preferred candidate in the other political party's Primary. This ensures that both political parties are able to nominate and vote on the individuals who will be the party representative in the General Election without manipulation/fraud by the other party.


I don't see how they could stop the Independents from stacking the deck if they are allowed to vote in the primary for the two major parties. It doesn't seem to make sense to do that.

Ed W.

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ShellyWed Nov-08-06 04:17 PM
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#54. "RE: Political registration question...."
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I have seen this argued many ways. What is the actual purpose of a primary? It is an attempt by a party to select among candidates to see which has the most support for the general election. It can,and has been argued that opening the process to all voters will give a better indication of which candidate will draw the most support in the actual election.

Looked at another way, you could run a preliminary election with all potential candidates included, and then take the two or top winners and have them run in the general election against each other, thus insuring that the winner would have a majority vote.

The way we do primaries now maximizes the support of a two party system, It preserves the status quo, by making it hard for any other candidate to win. This may or may not be good. It prevents the potential balkanization of the government into dozens of splinter parties, as we see in some parliamentary systems, but also stifles the introduction of new ideas, and avoids a fully representative government encompassing all the diverse views of the public.

What method is better? You pays your money and you takes your choice. Certainly no single method is carved in stone to be best.

Shelly

  

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Ed W.Wed Nov-08-06 06:18 PM
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#55. "RE: Political registration question...."
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Thank you very much Shelly. This is exactly what I was looking for and now have more knowledge to think about this.

Ed W.

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