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waldoFri Oct-11-02 07:16 PM
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"Another shooting in D.C."


  

          

Am I the only one who thinks the news media is feeding this lunatic? http://www.msnbc.com/news/816566.asp

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cascaFri Oct-11-02 08:37 PM
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#1. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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The world is a whorehouse and the media is the piano player.

10 points to the first person who knows the person credited with that.

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waldoThu May-22-03 01:51 AM
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"RE: Another shooting in D.C."


  

          

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ShellyFri Oct-11-02 09:09 PM
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Sounds like the shooter made some mistakes this time. It could be the turning point. He bumped some other cars fleeing the scene. This may yield some paint samples from the vehicle, and even a visual ID.

As far as news coverage, do you expect repeat murders by this shooter to go unreported? You can't be that naive!

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waldoFri Oct-11-02 09:26 PM
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No sir, not go unreported, but certainly the situation could be "de-sensationalized". Do we really need Geraldo in there? You know the first thing this creep does is go home and watch CNN.

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dbahnFri Oct-11-02 09:52 PM
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I don't think anyone expects that the media could or would keep silent about the killings when they occur. It's the "leaking" confidential information that the police feel is important to solving the case that is the problem.

It is clear that the sniper, as in similar cases in the past, thrives on the impact that his actions make to the public. Ironically, experts speculate that if the media stopped paying attention to him he would be more likely to kill to restore that attention. But again, there is a big difference between reporting publicly released information and digging up confidential information and reporting that.

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waldoFri Oct-11-02 10:01 PM
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With all the news coverage on this today Shelly, you are the only person I've heard say they hit another car fleeing the scene. Got a source?

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HauxfanFri Oct-11-02 11:33 PM
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Who is to say that the gunman, or gunmen would not start killing more, if it was not reported on the news.


  

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ShellySat Oct-12-02 12:41 AM
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#7. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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I heard it on a report on NPR when I went to lunch today. The shooter is an obvious sociopath, and killing to him is just a pastime provoking no sense of guilt.

The only leaks of sensitive information had the police themselves as the source, according to police chief Moose.

I don't think Geraldo is needed anywhere. He is a pimple on the ass of journalism.

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#16. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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Shelly, I think its possible that you are wrong here. The 13 year child was shot in the stomach, while most of the others were head or chest shots. Now, assuming the shooter intended to make that particular shot, that would seem to indicate some level of guilt or pity for his victim (a small level, doesn't mean the guy isn't a grade-A fruitcake). Geraldo has become the punchline in every joke about the media, but I remember when he became famous for what was considered to be "tough and honest journalism" back in the day... kind of sad.

  

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janad22Sun Oct-13-02 03:33 AM
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#15. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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Hi Waldo,

He seems to believe that he is God....I'm not sure if that was prior to the coverage or after. But the media, with all their so called "good intent" (coughing,sputtering) put these people in the limelight, thus they become the "Star" of the moment, which must give them such a sense of belonging.

According to so called "profiling" of these individuals, this type are usually loners and don't play well with others. So in this case, the media attention cannot be helpful. It's just giving this tortured soul all the more reason to continue down this path of insanity. Does the media care?? I won't even venture to go there






Warmly, Jana

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MykSat Oct-12-02 01:21 AM
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#8. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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Unreported? No.
Unsensationalized? Yes, that is their responsibility.
Reported in a manner so they don't impede investigation? Yes, that is also their responsibilty.
Reported in a manner so they don't feed the psycho? Also their responsibilty.

But it's a criminal shooting. Of course the media sensationalize, impede and feed. Media has gone from reporting the news to creating the news.

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cascaSat Oct-12-02 03:19 AM
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#9. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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Actually, if you can get the data, there were a few other snipers over the years in the area that were never caught. Before I lost access and clearance to the data I found 120 unsolved snipings with a particular time window and the same MO (only women) in that very same regional area.

Went for two years, stopped, then resumed. So, they interviewed every returning service personnel (who had the necessary skill sets and was out of country during the downtime) in the Washington/Virginia/Baltmore area. Never caught the perp.

This guy is sloppy though, he will get caught because he cannot stop himself, he loves the "rush", or as AL mentioned he got the God complex and only a FMJ through the temples will fix that.

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billyboybSat Oct-12-02 06:06 PM
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#10. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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like shelly said he, the shooter, did bump a few cars while escaping according to cnn, also this morning on fox news they interviewed a lady from in back of the sevice station, and she says she saw a white van fitting the description cruising the station lot before the shooting and that the driver was a blonde female with a male in the passenger side
maybe a bonnie and clyde duo???

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waldoThu May-22-03 01:51 AM
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#17. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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More like Mickey and Mallory from Oliver Stone's "Natural Born Killers".

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ukmitchSat Oct-12-02 06:42 PM
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#11. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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From a British perspective, this an outrage and people here are praying that the perpetrator is caught real soon.

And those poor, innocent victims. Cut down and depatched to oblivion without even, one hopes at least, knowing what hit them.



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DaDwarfsSat Oct-12-02 08:01 PM
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#12. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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The guy killed at the gas station was a local from my area. :'(
He sounds like he was a great person obliterated for someone's deranged pleasure :'(

This is taken from the Pottstown Mercury Newspaper.
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OBELISK -- The family of the Montgomery County native killed by a sniper Wednesday weathered both grief and a media onslaught Friday, as a national story became suddenly and intensely local.
Dean H. Meyers, 53, a 1967 Boyertown Area High School graduate, was killed by a sniper in Manassas, Va., when he stopped after work to buy gas.

Dean's brother, Bob Meyers, who lives in the Obelisk area, spoke to The Mercury Friday on behalf of his parents, Rose and G. Harold Meyers of Obelisk, and other family. Bob Meyers graciously answered questions about his brother, even after a day of entertaining questions from every major television station and newspaper in the region.

"We want to honor Dean for who he was and to bring honor to God," said Bob Meyers. "We may not be able to understand or explain what's going on, but it will not make us turn away from God."

Bob Meyers described his brother, one of four Meyers sons raised in the rural village of Obelisk, as very unselfish, caring and giving -- someone always willing to give of his time or resources.

"Because he was never married, he was able to give his time, especially to children, and had the resources to do things for people. He was 'Uncle Dean' to many kids," Bob Meyers said. "He paid attention to people in general, and especially kids. He was very likable and very low key."

After his graduation from high school, Dean Meyers served in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War, on search-and-destroy missions with the 1st Cavalry. During an ambush of his platoon, he was wounded, losing the use of his left arm, his brother said.

After Dean Meyers' return to the U.S., it took more than 18 months of surgery and therapy, but he regained the use of his arm. He was awarded the Purple Heart for his service.

"He faced a lot of adversity in Vietnam, and he was not a macho guy -- he was just a kid barely out of high school," Bob Meyers said. "I just find it kind of ironic that he survived a wound in battle and didn't survive this trip to the gas station."

Dean Meyers earned a degree in civil engineering from Penn State in 1975. He subsequently took a position with Dewberry & Davis, a civil engineering firm in Manassas, Va. More than 25 years later, Dean Meyers was still with the firm, working as a project manager.

He had been working late Wednesday night on a special project, his brother said. He stopped to get gas for the 35-mile trip to his home in Gaithersburg, Md., and was fatally shot.

Police in Manassas gave Dean Meyer's address book to Pennsylvania State Police, who tracked down a nephew in Pennsylvania, who informed the rest of the family.

Deborah Kay Dawson of Fleetwood, a Boyertown classmate of Dean Meyers, said she remembered him as a really nice guy.

"We were friends," she said. "He was very quiet and shy. Just a wonderful person."

Dawson flipped through her copy of the 1967 Bear Yearbook Friday to see what school activities Meyers was in.

Under Meyers' senior class photo was his nickname, "Dino," his favorite subjects: English and P.O.D., or Problems of Democracy; and a mention that he liked antique cars and sports and hoped to attend college in the future.

"He liked history -- especially the Civil War, and had a real interest in older vehicles," Bob Meyers said. "He was quite a gentleman."

"He was quietly concerned about other people, and he never drew attention to himself," co-worker Dave Brent said. "He did things to make things happen and never took credit for it himself."

Brent said Meyers was a hard worker and always was the last to leave the office. Brent said his friend once gave hundreds of dollars to an office campaign that raised money for underprivileged children to go Christmas shopping.

"He was a good neighbor," said Suzanne Iverson, whose home is next to the tidy townhouse where Meyers lived alone for 24 years in Gaithersburg.

"It is very sad when it hits you so close to home," she said. "He was always willing to help."

Iverson moved into the neighborhood after her mother, Carol, moved to a nearby retirement community. Carol Iverson remained Meyers' friend, and had him over for dinner last week.

"He was perfectly delightful," she said, her voice breaking. "I can't say enough good things about him. He always had a kind word. He always had time to stop and talk."

When he was home, neighbors said he worked in his ivy-trimmed yard, took runs along the Seneca Creek Greenway Trail and liked to canoe.

He was a talented piano player, despite his injury, and loved to play all types of sports, including hiking, volleyball, tennis and softball, according to his brother. Meyers visited his family in Pennsylvania every six weeks or so and on all major holidays, always bringing "very carefully selected gifts for all the children at Christmas," Bob Meyers said.

Neighbor Barbara Stewart said Meyers was known for being helpful, and often offered assistance to her husband, who has Parkinson's disease. He frequently helped her lift heavy bags of dog food out of her car, she said.

Neighbor Clara Johnson said Meyers looked out for cats in the community. "He would just take all the stray cats he could find and take them in his house and feed them," she said.

Johnson said whoever killed Meyers is "a person that has no heart, no love, no concern -- but most of all, no love in his heart."

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

ŠThe Mercury 2002


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cascaSat Oct-12-02 09:08 PM
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#13. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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One should realize that only within the last few decades have the divergent police agencies have interconnected and shared data. The one shooter I mentioned was prior to the massive media machine that now exists, plus differing agencies always compete. The bigger the bust, the bigger the boost.

So things that have happened before and not garnered publicity are easily "pumped" for greater ad revenues.

Our heartfelt feelings aside for those touched by this tragedy, if you are not in the area what is the importance of knowing this?

News is more entertainment than real information now.

Truly sad, but that had people go mad in Rome and go on rampages with swords, so the human condition remains the same.

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patysonSun Oct-13-02 12:06 AM
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#14. "RE: Another shooting in D.C."
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Good thing I just moved from Fredericksburg to Richmond less than a month ago...not working in the DC area anymore,either!

  

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