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MSUTue Sep-30-14 09:34 PM
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"Here we go..."


  

          

http://preview.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-confirms-first-ebola-case-diagnosed-in-the-united-states/ar-BB6EA9s

Great...

Don't know how the person got it, but unfettered illegal immigration is just asking for trouble. Not to mention bringing people back into the country on purpose who are infected for treatment. I know they took tons of precautions and the patients recovered. But there's still the chance that something could slip through.

MSU

  

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AllynTue Sep-30-14 09:36 PM
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#1. "RE: Here we go..."
In response to MSU (Reply # 0)
Tue Sep-30-14 09:36 PM by Allyn

          

You beat me by seconds! But not a contest...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102037055

It was a question of time...

  

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ShellyWed Oct-01-14 03:10 PM
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#2. "RE: Here we go..."
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How he got into the US is simple. He was checked at both ends of his flight and had no symptoms of Ebola or anything else. It takes 21 days for a person exposed to Ebola to start showing any symptom, and he had no symptoms until 4 days after landing in the US.

The biggest problem is he went to the emergency room after his symptoms started and was turned away, leaving him loose in public for a few days while he was contagious.

Shelly

  

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Paul DWed Oct-01-14 03:59 PM
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Yes, that aspect surprised me somewhat as well.



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MSUWed Oct-01-14 04:30 PM
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I've not heard anything since that initial vague report I linked to. Turning him away is very troubling.

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FZbarWed Oct-01-14 06:36 PM
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It won't matter one whit if it spreads to others.
That would say that the safety barriers simply don't work in every case & this endangers the nation.

Fred

  

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Paul DWed Oct-01-14 03:58 PM
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No illegal immigration in this case.



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MSUWed Oct-01-14 04:28 PM
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No it wasn't. But it should still be off concern.

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ShellyWed Oct-01-14 05:45 PM
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Team seeks anyone who encountered Ebola patient

Oct 1, 11:55 AM (ET)

By DAVID WARREN and LAURAN NEERGARD

DALLAS (AP) — A nine-member team of federal health officials is tracking anyone who had close contact with a man being treated for Ebola in a Dallas hospital, the director of the nation's top disease-fighting agency said Wednesday.

The team from the Centers for Disease Control is in Dallas to work with local and state health agencies to ensure that those people are watched every day for 21 days.

"If anyone develops fever, we'll immediately isolate them to stop the chain of transmission," CDC Director Tom Frieden said in an interview with The Associated Press.

The Dallas patient on Tuesday became the first case of Ebola diagnosed in the U.S. The unidentified man has been in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital since Sunday. Health authorities have not revealed his nationality or age. He was listed in serious condition Wednesday.

Three members of the ambulance crew that transported the man to the hospital have tested negative for the virus and are restricted to their homes while their conditions are observed.

The man was vomiting when the ambulance got to the hospital, Dallas city spokeswoman Sana Syed said.

The ambulance crew is among 12 to 18 people being monitored after exposure to the man. Some are members of his family, but not all, Syed said.

Ebola symptoms can include fever, muscle pain, vomiting and bleeding, and can appear as long as 21 days after exposure to the virus. The disease is not contagious until symptoms begin, and it takes close contact with bodily fluids to spread.

Officials said there are no other suspected cases in Texas, but the diagnosis sent chills through the area's West African community, whose leaders urged caution to prevent spreading the virus.

The man left Liberia on Sept. 19, arrived the next day to visit relatives and started feeling ill four or five days later, Frieden said.

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country.

"We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said Tuesday at a community meeting.

The CDC has not advised that people avoid large gatherings in this country.

The association's vice president warned against alarm in the community.

"We don't want to get a panic going," said vice president Roseline Sayon. "We embrace those people who are coming forward. Don't let the stigma keep you from getting tested."

Frieden said he didn't believe anyone on the same flights as the patient was at risk.

"Ebola doesn't spread before someone gets sick, and he didn't get sick until four days after he got off the airplane," Frieden said.

Four American aid workers who became infected in West Africa have been flown back to the U.S. for treatment after they became sick. They were treated in special isolation facilities at hospitals in Atlanta and Nebraska. Three have recovered.

A U.S. doctor exposed to the virus in Sierra Leone is under observation in a similar facility at the National Institutes of Health.

The U.S. has only four such isolation units, but Frieden said there was no need to move the latest patient because virtually any hospital can provide the proper care and infection control.

The man, who arrived in the U.S. on Sept. 20, began to develop symptoms last Wednesday and sought care two days later. But he was released.

At the time, hospital officials didn't know he had been in West Africa. He returned later as his condition worsened.

Blood tests by Texas health officials and the CDC separately confirmed his Ebola diagnosis Tuesday. State health officials described the patient as seriously ill.

Dr. Edward Goodman, an epidemiologist at the hospital, said the patient was able to communicate and was hungry.

The hospital is discussing if experimental treatments would be appropriate, Frieden said.

Passengers leaving Liberia pass through rigorous screening, the country's airport authority said Wednesday. But those checks are no guarantee that an infected person won't get through and airport officials would be unlikely to stop someone not showing symptoms, according to Binyah Kesselly, chairman of the Liberia Airport Authority's board of directors.

CDC officials are helping staff at Monrovia's airport, where passengers are screened for signs of infection, including fever, and asked about their travel history. Plastic buckets filled with chlorinated water for hand-washing are present throughout the airport.

Liberia is one of the three hardest-hit countries in the epidemic, along with Sierra Leone and Guinea.

Ebola is believed to have sickened more than 6,500 people in West Africa, and more than 3,000 deaths have been linked to the disease, according to the World Health Organization. But even those tolls are probably underestimates, partially because there are not enough labs to test people for Ebola.

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ShellyWed Oct-01-14 05:49 PM
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#8. "RE: Here we go..."
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Sister: US Ebola patient said he was from Liberia

Oct 1, 1:24 PM (ET)

By DAVID WARREN and LAURAN NEERGARD

DALLAS (AP) — The sister of the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States says he told relatives he notified officials the first time he went to the hospital that he was visiting from Liberia.

Mai Wureh says her brother, Thomas Eric Duncan, went to a Dallas emergency room on Friday and they sent him home with antibiotics. She says he said hospital officials asked for his Social Security number and he said that he didn't have one because he was visiting from Liberia.

Duncan arrived in the U.S. on Sept. 20 to be with relatives in Dallas. He began to develop symptoms last Wednesday and sought care two days later. He was released and returned to the hospital and was admitted Sunday.


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MizeWed Oct-01-14 10:44 PM
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#10. "RE: Here we go..."
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Know that ebola is spread through direct contact with blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, feces, vomit, and semen).

  

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ShellyThu Oct-02-14 07:17 PM
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You left out sweat.

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DaDwarfsThu Oct-02-14 07:41 PM
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And tears

  

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MizeThu Oct-02-14 11:42 PM
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That's why "including but not limited to" was in there

  

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AllynWed Oct-15-14 11:34 AM
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#14. "RE: Here we go..."
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A second health-care worker in Dallas is diagnosed with Ebola

  

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jasonlevineWed Oct-15-14 06:21 PM
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#15. "RE: Here we go..."
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The nurses in that hospital have come forward claiming that there wasn't an appropriate response. This is spreading infection likely due to slow CDC response and poor hospital management instead of clumsy nurses. Nurses can only do so much if they aren't provided the right gear/training.

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gmsilerWed Oct-15-14 06:33 PM
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#16. "RE: Here we go..."
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Wed Oct-15-14 06:49 PM by gmsiler

  

          

And yet another case ... a CDC woman off a plane from Cleveland to Dallas (traveling on a commercial aircraft). It's going to be a rough ride.

  

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KJTWed Oct-15-14 07:00 PM
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#17. "RE: Here we go..."
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Wed Oct-15-14 07:02 PM by KJT

  

          

The first mention of "Ebola" in this forum that I can find was, appropriately enough, posted by doctormidnight on Sun Dec-15-02 10:37 PM. Yep, that's 2002. In a couple of months that will have been 12 years ago.

Yes, it's a terrible disease, and yes, it's contagious, and mostly terminal. But it's seemingly rather difficult to catch, witness the small number of individuals who have been identified in the US despite the length of time it's been known.

But is it significant enough to warrant all the "chicken little" behavior on the part of Media and panicked individuals. I can't see it, at least not right now.

For perspective, the "Vaccination rates" thread you started identifies what to me is a much greater threat to individuals and society. In the US, hundreds, if not thousands, of times as many individual are likely to suffer and/or die due to this stupidity than will due to Ebola.

Jim.

  

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Paul DWed Oct-15-14 07:39 PM
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#18. "RE: Here we go..."
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Wed Oct-15-14 07:42 PM by Paul D

  

          

Hear hear!

Australia has had one suspected case - a health worker returning from somewhere in Africa. She landed symptom-free and self-reported when symptoms developed. The media went berserk, and within a few hours medical face masks sold out in her home town.

Guess what - she had the flu!

And I also agree 100% with your comment about the relative threat from non-vaccination as opposed to Ebola.




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MSUThu Oct-16-14 01:55 AM
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#19. "RE: Here we go..."
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Can't argue that, I agree totally. It is supposedly not that ready to catch, but still disconcerting. And the vaccines....well...that's of course just or pure idiocy.

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AllynThu Oct-16-14 03:40 AM
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#20. "RE: Here we go..."
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Thu Oct-16-14 03:41 AM by Allyn

          

The first I recall Ebola mentioned may have been in the movie "Outbreak" years ago. I'm surprised that the disease hasn't spread beyond Africa before last month.

I think we have something to worry about. It's my opinion that in the effort to avoid general panic, the CDC erred by not tightening the noose around those involved in the Duncan case protocol breach. Consequently, Ebola now has greater potential to spread out of control and do serious economic damage to western economies.

I hope I'm wrong...

  

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Paul DTue Oct-28-14 10:12 PM
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#21. "RE: Here we go..."
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I am led to believe that your federal authorities are in many respects hamstrung by the degree of autonomy your states have in health matters.

Yes, I do realise that doesn't extend to who may or may not enter the country. But it seems that it does apply (among other things) to quarantining US residents.




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