I'm certainly not an expert so I was very sad to see that Windows NT (work machine) doesn't support USB (for my Sandisk Smart Media Card). My digital camera is USB only so that doesn't help either.

Did anyone attempt or create a 3rd Party solution for USB in Windows NT?

Thanks for the help:-)

Here it is: http://www.jungo.com/usbmic_news.html

I think I mislead people in my question...

Basically I have a USB device that I want to work in Windows NT. The company doesn't support a driver for NT because it's not nativly supported in NT 4.0. My hope was to use a Windows 2000 driver with some rigged 3rd party software adding USB support to the computer and allow me to use the device.

Just writing the question again makes me realize that Win NT probably will not do that. ;-)

Windows NT 4.0 does not support Universal Serial Bus (USB) host controllers. There are no plans to provide USB support in Windows NT 4.0 in a future service pack.

Thanks for the information but it's clear I was asking for 3rd party solutions.

Example.... Mac OS Doesn't support USB 2.0 (yet) but 3 different companies sell and produce drivers to support USB 2.0

I thought maybe USB support would be something NT goers would want and someone may have produces a work around.

I guess I'm not a windows expert in this but are you guys limited to what MS offers for bus support???

aka if they don't have USB support then you can't have USB support?

how does this work with the recent idea that MS doesn't want to support USB 2.0?

Maybe try looking for a USB add-on card that has NT drivers? I think you're prolly outta luck.

Most of those cards support USB 2.0 only under OS X and as USB 1.1 under anything older, the same cards have support in Windows for anything newer than Windows 95 SR1 (1996) There is not any version of Mac with support for USB before 1998 (Do I have to mention that NT 4 is a 1996 product?)

I thought maybe USB support would be something NT goers would want and someone may have produces a work around.
It is easy to add support to USB to some obsolete OS like Mac before OS X or Windows 95-98, as the Operating System let you access hardware directly (at the cost of making the OS prone to crash), this is a no no with Windows NT/2000/XP or OS X if the OS doesn't support it, it will be hard to implement, most manufacturers avoid this, so chances that you will find a card are close to nil.

I guess I'm not a windows expert in this but are you guys limited to what MS offers for bus support???
aka if they don't have USB support then you can't have USB support?

Somehow the OS has to support it or Manufacturers have to take the plunge if the OS let you do that, in any event the Windows side was luckier on this than the Mac crowd, Windows had support for USB since Win 95 SR 1 (1996) Mac had support when they released the Imac in August 1998

how does this work with the recent idea that MS doesn't want to support USB 2.0?
I don't know from where you got that, there is no native support for USB 2.0 in Windows 2000/XP but manufacturers can easily add the feature if they want to produce the driver (Same thing in OS X) the Stack to add the functionality is available for download at the developers site, Microsoft will add native support for USB 2.0 and Bluetooth in a future Service Pack

>Mac OS Doesn't support USB 2.0 (yet) but 3 different
>companies sell and produce drivers to support USB 2.0
>Most of those cards support USB 2.0 only under OS X and as
>USB 1.1 under anything older,

<b>Exactly. But the cards are not supported in Windows NT. My question was why 3rd parties didn't create drivers for it. I wasn't knocking PC or NT for not having it.</b>

the same cards have support in Windows for anything newer than Windows 95 SR1 (1996) There is not any version of Mac with support for USB before 1998

<b>I agree and I'm not trying to start a PC Mac Debate here. Bottom Line. I use both and I'm here for PC help. I'm not sure where your "PC's are better than Macs" thoughts come into play at all</b>




I thought maybe USB support would be something NT goers
would want and someone may have produces a work around.

>It is easy to add support to USB to some obsolete OS like
>Mac before OS X or Windows 95-98, as the Operating System
>let you access hardware directly (at the cost of making the
>OS prone to crash), this is a no no with Windows NT/2000/XP
>or OS X if the OS doesn't support it, it will be hard to
>implement, most manufacturers avoid this, so chances that
>you will find a card are close to nil.

<b> This would hold up except that you even know that Mac OS X has no support for USB 2.0 but 3rd party companies created drivers for it. So perhaps the issue exsists in the 'new' os but seems that they found a way around it</b>


>
>I guess I'm not a windows expert in this but are you guys
>limited to what MS offers for bus support???
>aka if they don't have USB support then you can't have USB
>support?
>
>Somehow the OS has to support it or Manufacturers has to
>take the plunge if the OS let you do that, in any event the
>Windows side was luckier on this than the Mac crowd, Windows
>had support for USB since Win 95 SR 1 (1996) Mac had support
>when they released the Imac in August 1998.

<b> the issue for USB support first on the PC (BTW Win95 is horrible with USB support) was that hardware companies agreed on USB for the PC side. USB was the last time Apple had ever been "behind" in technology but again I have no clue what this has to do with NT USB support What good was USB support when 10 devices (worthwhile) exsisted for USB? Because everything was built inhouse apple used to have the policy of wait and see.</b>

>
>how does this work with the recent idea that MS doesn't
>want to support USB 2.0?
>I don't know from where you got that, there is no native
>support for USB 2.0 in Windows 2000/XP but manufacturers can
>easily add the feature if they want to produce the driver
>(Same thing in OS X) the Stack to add the functionality is
>available for download at the developers site, Microsoft
>will add native support for USB 2.0 and Bluetooth in a
>future
>Service Pack>

<b>The idea wasn't to knock windows or NT. I had a question of where that put developers. Sounds like MS did the right thing to offer the core and have developers base drivers on that. (very good idea)

new to the forum. Now I see that I need to use this and not <b> this </b>

You can go to your message and edit the tags.

The upgrade in OS X from USB 1.1 to USB 2.0 is as easy as it is for MS to make the same upgrade in Windows 2000/XP the reason been that the functionality is already integrated in the Kernel and just some minor updates are needed to handle the increase in speed.

I'm using a plug in device that converts a serial device to hook up to a USB port. (I ran out of serial ports) I think there is also a similar device that converts in the other direction.