http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx

Shelly

I went to MS's site earlier today, looking for IE7 to try out ... had to laugh, the link to the IE web page could not be found.

True, and I used IE6 to go there too.

Thanks.

Thanks for the heads-up. Got it downloaded and awaiting comments from you and others on performance. Will install after I see some of your notes.
paparalph

Well, the first thing it did, when I tried it, was to go to "go.microsoft.com/blaaBlaaBla" ... took an age "Internet Explorer cannot display the web page" is what I get.

What a load of

However, I did copy-n-paste the URL into Firefox, and sure enough, there is a problem ... maybe due to being "hit" by everyone else trying at the same time ... maybe some other 'problem' dunno.

Good game though.

IE7 installed without a problem, but it did take a surprisingly long time to finish.

This is going to take some getting used to. One problem I ran into is scrolling with my mouse wheel. Every time I rotate the wheel the screen keeps scrolling for five times in that direction. This is a pain and is unacceptable. The work around is to use the scroll buttons on my MX700 mouse. Has anyone else encountered this mouse wheel problem?

So far the only impression I have of tabbed browsing is that it wastes an additional half inch of screen area, but I need to experiment more with it.

The one surprise is that I expected it would also update to a version 7 of OE, since OE is an integral part of IE, but it did not.

Shelly

Maybe that's because there's no OE in Vista. It's called Windows Mail and is no relation to OE.

Shelly, don't know if the MX700 uses Ligitech's SetPoint software ... first thing that happened to me after IE re-booted the PC was SetPoint popped up telling there was an update ... not sure if that was a coincident or not as this PC rarely gets rebooted or used.

No problem with my MX1000

The BBC still crashes the browser when trying to view video news ... must write to them about that.

Mucks, I updated the mousewear to version 9.79 from 9.70, and that fixed the scroll problem. Thanks.

Shelly

The tabs area is a little too big in IE7, especially at 1024x768 (or lower... I can't imagine)

But oh well, once you see how practical tabbed browsing is when you're multitasking you'll not want to go back.

Here's an example of how I use tabbed browsing. You're doing a google search for something, and you want to check out a bunch of results, without losing your place (back button history is easily damaged in a session). Sure, you could right click and open each in a new window but that would irritate (new windows steal focus) and confuse me (especially if grouping IE windows on the taskbar). Instead, you can middle click (click scroll wheel) to open each in a tab and be flipping through them and reading, while waiting for slower ones to come in. It's all right at your finger tips.

I might have a dozen or more tabs open in firefox at any given time while working on various things.

Another example, galleries of pictures (porn? ). Middle click on a half dozen of them quickly and carry on working/viewing while they are downloading.

Grogan

Thanks Mike, As I said I have to play with it some more.

Shelly

Hilarious, Grogan, I surf the same exact way with Firefox (minus the porn part).

As for the new IE7, I don't mind it. I'll be sticking with Firefox, of course (I just can't do without all the extensions I use), but IE7 isn't terrible. Yes, that's a backhanded compliment. Even though it took Micro$oft 5 years to update the browser used by most humans, at least it's an improvement. It's streamlined and even intuitive.

For people not accustomed to "tabbed browsing," IE7 could open up a whole new world of convenience...


>Here's an example of how I use tabbed browsing. You're doing a
>google search for something, and you want to check out a bunch
>of results, without losing your place (back button history is
>easily damaged in a session). Sure, you could right click and
>open each in a new window but that would irritate (new windows
>steal focus) and confuse me (especially if grouping IE windows
>on the taskbar). Instead, you can middle click (click scroll
>wheel) to open each in a tab and be flipping through them and
>reading, while waiting for slower ones to come in. It's all
>right at your finger tips.
>
>I might have a dozen or more tabs open in firefox at any given
>time while working on various things.
>
>Another example, galleries of pictures (porn? ). Middle
>click on a half dozen of them quickly and carry on
>working/viewing while they are downloading.

Shelly, I just finished installing IE7. My mouse is a Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse version 2.0, and I did not experience the scrolling problem with the mouse you did.

So far, however, things seem slower. But I'll give it a chance. Been using Firefox.

jaded

I installed IE & but it does not want to connect. It just sets on screen saying trying to connect

I know my internet connection is good as I can connect and get e-mail. I cannnot find IE 7 in add and and remove. I will have to use GoBack when I get home to get back to IE 6

I found reason why IE 7 did not want to connect. I was using an add-on called WEB Blinds a skinning program for earlier versions of MSIE. I went back to IE 6 Disabled the Add-on and uninstalled web blinds. everything now works fine

I downloaded and installed IE7 on a desktop system last night, no troubles there. That system did have the beta 3 version installed, which it detected and removed.

The laptop is a different story. It never did have the beta version installed. After 3 tries (including a fresh download), I still don't have it installed completely, although it appears to be a partial install. It shows up in the Control Panel under Add or Remove Programs. The version number is 7.05730.11 xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 with a copyright of 2004. It's still the IE6 gui, no tabs!

I think I'll wait for Microsoft Update to push IE7 to the laptop.

Fifth time was the charm for installing IE7 on the laptop. It looks like that either Spybot Search and Destroy, or Spywareblaster, or both, were the culprits. I had forgotten that they were there gaurding the web browser. I couledn't readily find a way to disable either one of them, so I unistalled both. IE7 is now on the laptop.

It turns out that I have both IE6 and IE7 on the laptop. I had created a shortcut in the Quicklaunch bar to IE6, which still launches it even after installing IE7. I can only launch IE7 by using Start/Run/iexplore.exe to launch it. No icon for IE7 was created in the Start Menu when I installed it.

This is a puzzle. Currently, both IE6 and IE7 are running side by side and I'm logged into this web site with both.

Thanks, mine downloaded fine this morning. It had me worried at first, because it was showing 2 hours to go, and then 'suddenly', the download was complete; sometimes that has meant a corrupted download. Anyway, IE7 installed fine and seems to be working okay. I haven't made up my mind, whether I like it better or not. (I think it's better than IE6).

As a follow up to the previous post, I've had problems finding out where IE7 lives. It is not in the C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer folder like on my other system. There is an IE7 folder in the Windows directory, but the iexplore.exe icon there is for IE6. A search turns up iexplore.exe in a total of three locations, but all of those bring up IE6, not IE7.

That's a problem because the setup of IE7 did not put an icon in the Start Menu. Yet I can key in iexplore at Start/Run and get IE7.

I finally got smart about it and found a way to get it on the Start Menu. I have the Desktop on my system set so that there are no icons. I opened up My Computer, went to the Desktop and there it was, the IE7 icon. I dragged it to the Start menu which created a shortcut for it and all is well for now.

I can still have IE6 and IE7 running concurrently if I choose to do so, IE6 was not uninstalled. The question remains, "where did IE7 install itself?"

C:\Documents and Settings\Default\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch

Shelly

If you are referring to the IE7 icon, it wasn't there after installing IE7. I had to manually add it by dragging it from the Desktop. The IE6 icon was still there after the installation, the path was not changed to IE7.

The first time that I tried to install IE7 on the laptop the Quick Launch toolbar was disabled.

This whole mess might have something to do with the fact that the OS was origional WinME, since upgraded to WinXP Pro with all subsequent updates. There's still a folder containing elements of IE5 in it.

Hindsight is 20/20, but a clean install would've prevented all that. Upgrading on top of existing software, especially an operating system, is a bad idea...

>This whole mess might have something to do with the fact that
>the OS was origional WinME, since upgraded to WinXP Pro with
>all subsequent updates. There's still a folder containing
>elements of IE5 in it.

A wealth of info about IE 7 as to what it can or cannot do.

http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9004205&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_feat

Thanks bycycle, very informative.

Hindsite is a bit murky on that issue. I have been running this laptop with WinXP Pro since the week it went gold. If the fact that it was not a clean install has something to do with what happened on the IE7 setup, then it would be the first time there was such an issue.

Well, I have IE7 up and running both at the office and at home. It took me about 8 hours to get comfortable with it, but I decided I like it. It is at least as fast as IE6.

My only gripe is not being able to rearrange the tool bars at the top of the screen as I could in IE6.

Shelly

>
>My only gripe is not being able to rearrange the tool bars at
>the top of the screen as I could in IE6.

Yep, that's a piss off. You can at least right click on the toolbar and show the old menu (with File, View, Tools etc.) and use a registry edit to make it appear at the top of the browser. I need to have menus on program windows.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser

"ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001

This still works with IE7 final, I installed it in Vmware yesterday.

Grogan

Being a creature of habit, the first thing I did was to acvate the Menu tool bar. Then I found that just about everything in it was duplicated elsewhere. I deactivaated it and have not really missed it. I like a lot of screen realestate for the web pages and that is why I would like to move some things around to share the same toolbar rows.

Shelly

You got me to thinking. This creature of habit, for example, still uses File -> Exit most of the time to close programs. This started around 95 for me (when I learned that clicking the x to close doesn't always mean completely exit depending on the program), and I still do it to this day and I still use the menu bar in programs even though I use totally different systems now.

Functionality always has usually been duplicated elsewhere (e.g. in right click menus) but it's good to have more than one way to get at things in programs. That's something else I remember liking earlier on in Windows.

But yeah, I agree. If I was actually using IE7 as my browser, I'd probably have to do something to get more screen real estate.

Grogan

Arranging the toolbars is an issue for me as well, along with not being able to configure the tabs so that they load in the background when clicking a link. I have to right click the link and use "Open in New Tab" to make that happen.

Some info on IE7 toolbar here !

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17113600

Jane

I guess I'm not so persnickity about moving Toolbars around as some. But nevertheless, the one grip I have in this regard is that I cannot seem to "collapse" the "Links" toolbar so that it is displayed as only the word "Links >>" as can be done with IE6. Even with the Toolbar unlocked, it doesn't allow me to move the "bar" to the right thus hiding all the individual links.

Jeff
simul iustus et peccator

I have a couple of gripes one is since I use google tool bar I have two places I can enter for search under google. One is MS Search bar which I changed to google as my search engine and the regular google tool bar. I do not thw MS search bar to appear.

The other is the Icons under favorites in previous versions I coulld change wht these icons looked likw now I cannot

>The other is the Icons under favorites in previous versions I
>coulld change wht these icons looked likw now I cannot

It would be interesting to see if "FavOrg" works with IE7 which is how I change icons for individual Favorites.

Jeff
simul iustus et peccator

I tried fav org that did not appear to work for me

I Downloaded and installed IE7 with no problems, it looks and acts just like the last Beta.

I have two gripes...as mentioned above, not much customization of the toolbars and on my MS Intellemouse 2.0, I used to be able to use the thumb button to close pages and that no longer works. Maybe MS will update the mouse software to allow new options for IE7, I hope so. An option like "Close last tab" or something like that would work for me.

But, overall, I'm happy with IE7, will continue to use it and I like the Tabs.

allstondave

I Downloaded and installed IE7 with no problems, it looks and acts just like the last Beta.

I have two gripes...as mentioned above, not much customization of the toolbars and on my MS Intellemouse 2.0, I used to be able to use the thumb button to close pages and that no longer works. Maybe MS will update the mouse software to allow new options for IE7, I hope so. An option like "Close last tab" or something like that would work for me.

But, overall, I'm happy with IE7, will continue to use it and I like the Tabs.

allstondave

Don't know why that posted twice...Sorry 'bout that.

allstondave

To prove you were happy with it

LilJoe

>I Downloaded and installed IE7 with no problems, it looks and
>acts just like the last Beta.
>
>I have two gripes...as mentioned above, not much customization
>of the toolbars and on my MS Intellemouse 2.0, I used to be
>able to use the thumb button to close pages and that no longer
>works. Maybe MS will update the mouse software to allow new
>options for IE7, I hope so. An option like "Close last tab" or
>something like that would work for me.
>
>But, overall, I'm happy with IE7, will continue to use it and
>I like the Tabs.

IE7 Tip for moving Classic Menu to top

Edit: Sorry,didn't notice that was old post.

Rab

Shelly

There are some bookmark managers available as addons. Go to Tools/Manage Add-Ons/Find More Add-Ons and then follow the Bookmark Managers link. Some are free, other's fee.

>
>I tried fav org that did not appear to work for me

Hmmmm, I just installed IE7 and checked many of the Favorite shortcuts and all the icons which I had added via FavOrg on IE6 are still there. Sorry your experience was not the same, but I am happy that they were retained in my case.

Jeff
simul iustus et peccator

Yes, the existing icons are carried over. I thing he may mean the program can't scan for new favicons, but I have not tried it.

I take that back. I just ran Favorg and it worked perfectly in IE7, finding a bunch of new icons. I have Version 1.2 of the program.

Shelly

No Fav Org worked fine I can change Icons but they do not change in the menus of favorites in IE 7. My existing ICONS did not carry over; I do not even get the default icon in favorites. I get an Icon that looks like an old Win 3.0 a rectangle with what appears to be 3 stars or dots in a bar. It is the Icon one would get if there were no file association.


Before you ask I did a repair of ICONS.

Where is the Icon Cache located I could try a delete and see if it would re-build itself

If you used the repair in Tweak UI, thatis what it does, it deletes your Iconcache. You do have the TweakUI version for XP right?

Shelly

Here is what I do (and it works in IE7):
1. Create a personal folder such as 'My Favicons' in a folder that you will always backup, such as My Documents.
2. Move an individual Icon into the new folder and name it as desired.
3. Right click a Favorite URL and select Properties/Change Icon/Navigate to the new Icon/Save.
This is basically what Favicons program does.
I have a personal folder with around 100 icons that I always use when I do a new installation.

I find this new version of IE slower than the previous. FWIW

jaded

Interesting that you find it slower because my system finds it a lot faster. Was running the previous two betas. No problems with installing.

JG

Jazzgirl

I don't find it any slower than ver. 6.

anyone know if there is a way to open favorites in a new tab.
I don't see anything on the right click menu.

If the Favorites Toolbar (Ctrl+Shift+I) is open, you can center click, or right click a favorite to open it in a new tab.

>anyone know if there is a way to open favorites in a new tab.
>I don't see anything on the right click menu.

The right-click option to open in a new tab should be there. It is on mine.



Or, you can use, "Ctrl+click" on any link to open the page in a new tab.

Jeff
simul iustus et peccator

Attachment #1, (gif file)

OK, thanks Guys, I was trying to do it from Favorites on the menu bar.

another satisfied customer.

Just down loaded IE7 today took two tries first I ran it right from the site ended up freezing then I saved the second to disk. When I was downloading both times was told to turn off virus software I did turn it off. An icon ended up on my desk top for IE trouble shooting when I put the pointer over it showed.. go.microsoft.com/fwlink/? when I clicked on it it took me to support.microsoft.com

Do you have IE7 working properly now?

Shelly

Shelly,
Seems to be working just fine
Thanks eileen

Good!

Shelly