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FZbarFri Dec-21-01 08:27 PM
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"Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"


  

          

I have (or had) two computers on a network - Win SE to Win SE. It still works since I upgraded one PC to dual boot XP Pro. The connections betweeen SE in Sys 1 & SE in Sys 2 still work, but I can't seem to get networking going between XP Pro in Sys 1 & SE in Sys 2.

I've read the help in XP Pro but, sorry to say, it ain't clear enough. The local area properties have Client for usoft Networks, File & Printer Sharing, Qos Packet Scheduler, & Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) enumerated. The XP system doesn't see my second system (System2),therefore I can't map network drives like I did in SE.

Suggestions?

Fred

  

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sandorFri Dec-21-01 08:33 PM
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#1. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Fred....

I am not 100% on this but I did get my XP machine to talk to my 98se machine a while back. I think I had to creat a floppy of some sort (XP created the floppy) and then install that file/program (all a big blur) on the 98 machine. Its definetly possible, but its not as easy as two of the same OS.

See the wizard in XP and I think there is an option for networking to another machine with an older OS. I am not at home so I cant look at my XP machine to tell you for sure, sorry. Good luck...youll get it.

  

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FZbarFri Dec-21-01 09:02 PM
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#2. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Thanks guys. I'm not at the stage of implementing ICS. I'm just trying to share files & printers as the first stage. I recall clearly that installing ICS does require running a floppy produced by the host computer (the one with the modem to the Internet) on the remote machine.

My problem is that SE doesn't show the XP machine in Network Neighborhood & in XP the SE machine doesn't show up in Local Area Network (the equivalent of Network Neighborhood).

I'm clearly missing something obvious - as usual.

Fred

  

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SonnyFri Dec-21-01 09:18 PM
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#3. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Just keep it simple. The XP CD is all you need (floopy not required). Put your CD in Win98 or XP. Run ICS Wizard on both machines and Don't share your files.




  

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FZbarFri Dec-21-01 11:16 PM
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#4. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Sonny -

I don't understand why you say to run the ICS Wizard & not share files, when I DO want to share files from one machine to another. I want to pass files between them. You could do this in Win 98SE without installing ICS. Can you do this in XP & how, please.

Fred

  

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SonnySat Dec-22-01 12:03 AM
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#5. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Sorry Fred, I misread your post. The reason I suggested ICS is not for internet sharing alone, but to use the Network Wizard from XP for ANY type of networking. It is totally rewritten and handles any type of networking you want and works, from the CD, on ALL of your PCs. On one of my clents networks I removed all netwoking from all PCs and started fresh with the XP Networking Wizard to set them up as a simple P2P network and it went smoothly. This is only a suggestion on my part and not a pat answer.




  

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FZbarSat Dec-22-01 12:14 AM
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#6. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Sonny - Sorry Fred, I misread your post. The reason I suggested ICS is not for internet sharing alone, but to use the Network Wizard from XP for ANY type of networking. It is totally rewritten and handles any type of networking you want and works, from the CD, on ALL of your PCs. On one of my clents networks I removed all netwoking from all PCs and started fresh with the XP Networking Wizard to set them up as a simple P2P network and it went smoothly. This is only a suggestion on my part and not a pat answer.

Fred - That's ok. I didn't mean to be ornery. I'm reluctant to eliminate everything from the remote machine, because it connects satisfactorily with my dual boot system running Win 98SE. For that reason I'm trying to solve the XP Pro connect problem directly.

When I go to Entire Network in XP it only shows System1 - the XP system. When I try to run the Network Wizard, it renames the Workgroup to WORKGROUP from FRED, which is incorrect. I know my remote system has a unique name - SYTEM3 and Worgroup name - FRED. I am running as Administrator in XP with a name of SYSTEM1 and Workgroup name of FRED. The icon is systray shows a connection has been made, but the login is not taking place.

Frustrating as hell, though. Is there something else I have to enable? Is it worth the effort to rename SYSTEM3 workgroup name to WORKGROUP?

Thanks for your effort on my behalf.
Fred

  

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SonnySat Dec-22-01 12:48 AM
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#7. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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>Fred - That's ok. I didn't mean to be ornery.

LOL Don't worry 'bout it. Networking can sometimes make you Gray (my case more hair falling out). I see what you are trying to do, at least I think I do, so I was just suggesting the Network Wizard because of it's ease. There is a way to overide the naming of your workgroup after you have set it up. I just went to Help and Support and typed in workgroup. It has a number of options the including renaming (all you have to do is get them to match). It's been a while since I've set up a network as you have done so I don't want to steer you wrong. I think a little more tweaking on the XP may accomplish what you need. For some reason I have to be sitting at the keyboard and tube to see it before I can change it. I just seem to know it instinctivly but have a hard time describing it.




  

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DaveASat Dec-22-01 02:37 AM
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#8. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Sat Dec-22-01 02:39 AM

          

Did you turn OFF the MS built in FIREWALL? IF not, do so.

Is your Network name correct?
Did you use a different "Computer name"?

Did you share the drives and/or folders on the XP machine?
Did you share the Printer on the XP machine?

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FZbarSat Dec-22-01 02:44 AM
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#9. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Did you turn OFF the MS built in FIREWALL? IF not, do so.

I didn't enable it so how do I check?

Is your Network name correct? Yes
Did you use a different "Computer name"? System1 & System3

Did you share the drives and/or folders on the XP machine? Yes, double checked on remote machine.

Did you share the Printer on the XP machine? Yes, verified.


  

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DaveASat Dec-22-01 04:37 AM
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#10. "RE: Networking XP Pro & 98SE Problems"
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Sat Dec-22-01 04:38 AM

          

Right from the help center of XP Pro. This is turned on by default when you in stalled Windows XP.

To enable or disable Internet Connection Firewall

Open Network Connections
Click the Dial-up, LAN or High-Speed Internet connection that you want to protect, and then, under Network Tasks, click Change settings of this connection.
On the Advanced tab, under Internet Connection Firewall, select one of the following:
To enable Internet Connection Firewall (ICF), select the Protect my computer and network by limiting or preventing access to this computer from the Internet check box.
To disable Internet Connection Firewall, clear the Protect my computer and network by limiting or preventing access to this computer from the Internet check box.
Notes

To open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, click Network and Internet Connections, and then click Network Connections.
You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your computer is connected to a network, network policy settings may also prevent you from completing this procedure.
If you clear the Protect my computer and network by limiting or preventing access to this computer from the Internet check box, the firewall on your computer is disabled, and your network is vulnerable to intrusions.
You should not enable Internet Connection Firewall on virtual private networking (VPN) connections or on client computers because ICF will interfere with file and printer sharing.
ICF cannot be enabled on the private connections of the Internet Connection Sharing host computer.
Internet Connection Sharing, Internet Connection Firewall, Discovery and Control, and Network Bridge are not available on Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.
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