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BobMcGTue Feb-12-02 04:06 AM
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"Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"


  

          

On vacation?

  

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AllynTue Feb-12-02 04:09 AM
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#1. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to BobMcG (Reply # 0)


          

We miss his quality advice and smiling mug!






  

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ChickenmanTue Feb-12-02 04:09 AM
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#2. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I don't think Ogre's take vacations }> Just kidding.....just kidding

  

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seraccaTue Feb-12-02 04:27 AM
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#3. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Look out, Chickenman, 'cause he's been around and I can't wait to hear what he will have to say




  

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TuffTue Feb-12-02 04:31 AM
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#4. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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If he is around, you have to say the words "Old Fart" ,then he just suddenly appears lol ,Tuff

Just payback Shelly










  

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Mike1Tue Feb-12-02 04:35 AM
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#5. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I hope he's well !

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

  

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MykTue Feb-12-02 04:45 AM
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#6. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Maybe he got a flat wheel. It takes a while to chisel out a new one.

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dbahnTue Feb-12-02 04:57 AM
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#7. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Maybe when you get to 10,000 posts there is a mandatory cooling off period.

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doctormidnightTue Feb-12-02 06:50 AM
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#8. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Just emailed him. If he doesn't reply, we'll have all the Florida crew go down there and force him to give up his Margarita's.

  

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ShellyTue Feb-12-02 07:31 AM
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#9. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I'm still alive and well, thanks for your concern.

I have been reading the forum, but not posting. I've been doing a good deal of soul searching the past several days. In all the years that I have participated in PC911, and Winmag before that, for the first tome I started wondering if it was worth the effort anymore.

Let me explain. The character of the forum has changed, we are much better known than in the past, and there are more people who visit here than ever before. I have noticed two changes as a result that are probably inevitable. We are drawing an increasing number of trolls who come here neither seeking nor offering computer help, but only to amuse themselves by trying to stir up trouble. This is and has been eroding the spirit of family and comradery that most of us enjoy about this little corner of the web.

Some of our threads have devolved into snide personal attacks, and attempts to embarrass good people who are here to help others without hoping to profit by it. The most any of us ever hoped for was maybe an occasional "thank you". Many of us are respected professionals who offer freely here what we get paid for in the real world. I used to be the nastiest old reprobate in these parts. No more, I'm being out done. I'm known to be terse, but I have always tried never to be mean spirited.

There are a lot of long time contributors to these proceedings that rarely post or visit anymore. I miss them, but I can't blame them. Last week I came very close to resigning as a moderator and walking away. I do have a life beyond the forum that can keep me occupied.

I have taken part in many long debates over the years with people here that I respected. People like Al, Casca, Scotter, and others, who also could engage in a heated intellectual contest without resorting to personal attacks.

This post is getting far too long, so I'll end it by saying that I have decided to stay around in the hope that I can still contribute something, and that the good people who come here, not just the moderators, will help to keep this the kind of place it always was.

As for me, if you don't like my opinions, the way I write, or how I answer, Just avoid my posts. They're not hard to spot, I sign them big, with the name I've used for two thirds of a century.

Shelly

  

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t_bareTue Feb-12-02 07:37 AM
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#10. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly has just posted a wake up call for all of us.

I guess i dont have to say how badly he would be missed if he were to leave.

Thanks Shelly.

I will do my best to keep you onboard. Lets hope the others do.

t_bare




  

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#12. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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THANKS SHELLY...........waldo

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ChickenmanTue Feb-12-02 07:41 AM
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#11. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 9)
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Here here. Well said Shelly.

Yeah, I've noticed that as well lately...the Trolls and such. Sometimes a break is needed. Hell, if any one has deserved a rest it's you.

Was just reminising about the good ol' days of WinMag with GaGirl, Wenchie, Grogan, AL, Scotter, Revolution , your-self and so on. You're not the only one.

Sayyyyy.....remember when youz' guys and gals all got together at Wenchies? Maybe we need a nice vacation....someplace nice and warm. I here the French Antilles are rather nice. Do you think that CG would pop for it?

Edit: And BTW... a great big Thankyou for all your contibutions and help over the years. Where's Lucille...I think she needs to lay a big ol' smootch-aroo on ya right now!! I know it made me feel better

  

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#25. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Actually, it was at GaGirls\' place down near Atlanta. We had a blast!

JP

  

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#13. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 9)


  

          

You've put down what has been gnawing in my sub-conscious mind for some time. From the days of the Winmag forum, I 'm feeling a subtle, but definite, swing away....down a path that makes it less of a pleasure for me to read all the posts daily. I find myself skipping and ignoring which I never used to do.

I hope that we can regain that something and the spirit will return. I know that I'll try to continue my small efforts to help as I can.



  

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SonnyTue Feb-12-02 07:50 AM
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#14. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Thank you Shelly. I agree with your observations as to the character of some of our newer members. Often I have wanted to ask someone to find another place and leave this Forum to those who are constructive. Frankly I don't care how you post as long as you are willing to take the time to explain and to document if need be. Besides, us Old Farts have been through this before and eventually the Trolls wander off to other delightful entertainment.





  

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DenkiTue Feb-12-02 07:53 AM
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#15. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I have a feeling I fall into that crew he is talking about. We had a little confrontaion with the US Constitution and my laziness. Sorry about that Shelly. You have helped me with many of my problems. And while more often then not they are short and somewhat BLUNT/HARSH, I thank you for all your help.

  

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#17. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,

Thank you for deciding to stay. I have a great deal of respect for the knowledge you've tucked away during your lifetime, whether it relates to computers, electronics, space exploration, or just life's little lessons. You dispense this wisdom freely, never asking "what's in it for me?" As you said yourself, sometimes you can be a little terse in your responses, however, how anyone could find them rude is beyond me. I have never interpreted them in that way. Please don't let the trolls drive you away - this place wouldn't be the same without you.


  

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#16. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I've been lurking out on the fringes checking posts everyday for 2 or 3 mos, I've learned a lot a "LOT" here. This evening I decided to join so I could post to this topic, Shelly's posts for questions have always been to the point and concise and stated so a computer illiterate like me could understand them. I would sorely miss his wisdom.

LarryC

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#18. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Welcom to the show, Larry.


;~* ... Scotterpops





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#21. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly I love your help here you have always been very helpful and right to the point. TY for everything you have done I look forward t oseeing your help in the future. I wish I was posting more answers than questions unfortunately Im not as knowledgable as others. I know for sure though that you have always been a great help.

Denise
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My Native Forum bare but will hopefully get somewhere
http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/nativeforum

Billys24

  

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#19. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly ! I know I'm a newcomer,but I have read all your posts since I've been here and I have to say(besides all the above)that you always offer enlightenment and wit,and jocularity ! You definately would sorely be missed should you go. Please stay and help us all !! :'(

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

  

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#43. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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3 Pointer:

1. Larry C, you have exactly the right idea and attitude.

2. I don't personally remember them, but whatever happened to the golden days of BBS where one "lurked" to learn the ropes of a particular forum?

3. Maybe CG could institute a class system based on day's of membership, where after a "lurky" month or so, a person would be granted a voice.

mint

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#20. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I have periodically checked in on this forum for about a year now. In my day I was a guru (Trash-80, Commodore Pet, and early PC). About the time the pentium hit the scene, my intrests turned elsewhere. When my friend Trebuchet began to ask me questions about his system I could no longer answer, he found this forum and told me about it. Trebuchet is now my guru thanks to what he has learned from this forum. I am thankful, my friend had a place to go when I could not help him. My intresets are returning to computers, and I hope to be able to use this forum to bring myself back up to speed. One thing I do know, the forum would lose a lot if Shelly quit. While I think others could pull the weight. It would not be the same place. Shelly, from a once again neophite, thank you for staying a while longer

  

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#22. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,

I agree with the tone change and I am guilty of being one of the ones that rarely visits anymore. I respect you guys that have stuck around since the 'Winmag' days. I miss you guys (and gals) and those that haven't posted in awhile also. Most of the time I email you guys directly (you know who you are) because my posts get lost very quickly with all of the traffic. I have never experienced the online family that I experienced with Winmag - the butting of stubborn heads and all - in any other newgroup/forum. I have never found the mass accumulation of knowledge in all subjects that I have found with you guys. I seriously think that if I happen to visit any town that any of you 'originals' are in that I would be welcomed in your homes. I know that you are welcome in mine.

We all benefit from your knowledge and your generousity in sharing it. You are one of the reasons that I come back.

Maybe a rotation of moderators will give you guys a needed rest once in awhile.

I hope you stay around,
Priscilla

  

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#28. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Priscilla, I pretty much agree with what you said.

I can see Shelly's points though. When things aren't as much fun as they used to be, then it starts to become old.

As people in a group change, so does the character of the group. Whether or not that's a good thing depends on those involved, and it's entirely up to them to make the group a nice place to be or something to avoid.

This place is probably the premiere site to visit when it comes to a sense of community on the net. I can only think of one other place that comes close, and in both cases it's because there is a large core group of people who have been there for years participating and making them great.

It's even more amazing that the 'old timers' here origionally came together at a different site and transfered as a group to this one. Simply unheard of for this medium!

JP

  

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#23. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 9)


  

          

>...trolls who come here ...to
amuse themselves by trying to stir up trouble...
>...Some of our threads have devolved into snide personal
attacks, and attempts to embarrass good people...
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We all need to do our part by not responding to such posts. Responses make the problem worse; let those posts fade away. Let the trolls and the sh*t disturbers migrate to another forum where they can get their desired airtime. If you like that kind of crap or feel the need to get personal, then you are part of the problem.

>...Many of us are respected professionals who offer freely here
what we get paid for in the real world...
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We learners need and appreciate access to folks like you, thank you Shelly.


>... I sign them big, with the name I've used for two thirds of a century...
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What name did you use for the other third ?

You are getting sleepy, very sleepy...

  

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#24. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Well said Shelly. Sure glad you've decided to stay as your absence would change the face of this forum forever. You are a much needed ingredient, a vital piece of the heart of this place.

Don't let the trolls get you down as there are plenty of us who outnumber them and appreciate your selfless contributions.

Keep up the great work and Thank You! for all that you do.


  

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garbruTue Feb-12-02 09:38 AM
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#27. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly thanks for voicing your concerns. hope you stay. The forum would not be the same if you left it. Your knowledge is much appreciated here.


Garbru

  

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#29. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Spezi (Reply # 24)
Tue Feb-12-02 09:40 AM

          

Damn, Spezi. You sure do have a way with words sometimes. "your absence would change the face of this forum forever" That about perfectly sums it up.

Don't even think of leaving, Shelly. We'd have to hunt you down and drag you back.

I remember in one of my very first forays into Linux I didn't know how to get out of it. I didn't want to just pull the plug. So I found my way to Netscape, and posted to, I think Winmag's, or early 911. My post was "Help, I'm, stuck in Linux and I can't get out!!". You replied in less than 10 minutes with the answer, I sat there with faith knowing I'd eventually get help. Of course, it had to be Shelly. He is like air, always there.

Glad, you decided to stay.


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bugsTue Feb-12-02 10:28 AM
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#35. "RE: Shelly's back"
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Shelly:

(Embarrassed) one time troll here:

I am one of the $#!+ disturbers from recent days. I've been spending a lot of time in the forum lately and I made a mistake of letting the happening's in the forum get to personal and posted like a TROLL and tagged it for the Moderators, Stupid, Stupid thing to do. Some good people consider this forum as a Home away from Home or even a second family if you will, I am one of them. I love coming here day after day and contributing what knowledge I do have, which 90% of it I gained here and some from you. I cannot imagine what it would be like here if all the good people here (you included) were to slowly fade out of the forum until there was no one left, because of out bursts like mine or $#!+ disterbers..like them..........awful thought.

Glad to see that you decided to stay
Looking forward to reading your posts & learning something new

















  

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Paul DTue Feb-12-02 09:36 AM
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#26. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly, I hope you realise just how badly you would be missed. (Apart from the appalling down-under jokes, that is!)



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#30. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Well, I'm fairly new. Started coming here about 2 years ago. I will probably have more questions than answers. It's too bad about these 'trolls' as you call them. I find this place a hang-out to learn.
And for those of them who just want to cause problems, they should just go some place else.
Everytime I've visited here, it seems so professional.
I hope that PC911 doesn't lose this!!



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#33. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I like your responses, Shelly, short and to the point. That is the very thing that makes them easy to understand. I also have been a little uneasy about the forum. I'm glad you are staying for awhile. We can deal with trolls. Pat

  

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#38. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly there are so many things I learn from your many posts. I love when someone needs to know about Monitors or some kind of off the wall eletronic thingy. Your knowledge runs very deep in all aspects of the Electrical world. I know I would miss your input. As far as some of the old time posters. The computer industry changes so much some folks just get burnt out on all the changes, if they where still into the cutting edge computer world you can bet they would be here. I bet,lots of them still are, just lurking around. Sometimes ya need to pull back and take a break...pounding your brains out 24/7 is not fun. kick back for a while and enjoy.

  

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#52. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 9)


          

>I'm still alive and well, thanks for your concern.
>
>I have been reading the forum, but not posting. I've been
>doing a good deal of soul searching the past several days.
>In all the years that I have participated in PC911, and
>Winmag before that, for the first tome I started wondering
>if it was worth the effort anymore.
>
>Let me explain. The character of the forum has changed, we
>are much better known than in the past, and there are more
>people who visit here than ever before. I have noticed two
>changes as a result that are probably inevitable. We are
>drawing an increasing number of trolls who come here
>neither seeking nor offering computer help, but only to
>amuse themselves by trying to stir up trouble. This is and
>has been eroding the spirit of family and comradery that
>most of us enjoy about this little corner of the web.
>
>Some of our threads have devolved into snide personal
>attacks, and attempts to embarrass good people who are here
>to help others without hoping to profit by it. The most any
>of us ever hoped for was maybe an occasional "thank you".
>Many of us are respected professionals who offer freely here
>what we get paid for in the real world. I used to be the
>nastiest old reprobate in these parts. No more, I'm being
>out done. I'm known to be terse, but I have always tried
>never to be mean spirited.
>
>There are a lot of long time contributors to these
>proceedings that rarely post or visit anymore. I miss them,
>but I can't blame them. Last week I came very close to
>resigning as a moderator and walking away. I do have a life
>beyond the forum that can keep me occupied.
>
>I have taken part in many long debates over the years with
>people here that I respected. People like Al, Casca,
>Scotter, and others, who also could engage in a heated
>intellectual contest without resorting to personal attacks.
>
>This post is getting far too long, so I'll end it by saying
>that I have decided to stay around in the hope that I can
>still contribute something, and that the good people who
>come here, not just the moderators, will help to keep this
>the kind of place it always was.
>
>As for me, if you don't like my opinions, the way I write,
>or how I answer, Just avoid my posts. They're not hard to
>spot, I sign them big, with the name I've used for two
>thirds of a century.

Shelly, You don't know me. I started lurking on this site about 3 or 4 months ago, I'd come here to read and maybe learn something about computers. I've learned alot from the people
here. I consider myself armed and dangerous.

It was my first visit here that I read one of your posts. You seemed so knowledgeable that I figured if I read your posts I'd certainly learn something. I liked that your answers were well thought out, knowledgeable and to the point. I read every post of yours I can find. I know that if you've provided an answer it is correct and can be trusted.

In short while you may not know me you were the reason I came back to this site a second time. I have since learned that there are many posters here that put in the same effort and thoughtfullness that you do.

As a newby to this forum I appreciate you and all the others that give of their time and knowledge so freely.

While the forum may have changed and the trolls may have found it I hope that you and the others will not allow them the satisfaction of driving you away from the forum. You all do so much to help make computing an enjoyable experience that it would be a shame if you were to allow a few knuckle heads to spoil it.

Please accept my thanks and appreciation to all of you that help all of us. Geru.

  

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CopperWed Feb-13-02 01:01 AM
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#53. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,

Your posts are always helpful and on target. I read your posts first and learn something even when the quesion isn't mine.

It would be everyone's loss to be without your caring expertise.

Thanks for deciding to stay with PC911.

Copper

  

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seraccaWed Feb-13-02 02:26 AM
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#54. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Partial quotes from your post Shelly ..... and that is by far the most words I have ever seen you put together at one time


>I'm still alive and well, thanks for your concern.
>
>I have been reading the forum, but not posting. I've been
>doing a good deal of soul searching the past several days.
>In all the years that I have participated in PC911, and
>Winmag before that, for the first tome I started wondering
>if it was worth the effort anymore.

>The most any
>of us ever hoped for was maybe an occasional "thank you".
>Many of us are respected professionals who offer freely here
>what we get paid for in the real world.

My point is that it is obvious from the replies that there are a LOT of people here that are concerned, and would miss your presence, just like in any family! You mentioned offering freely what you get paid for in the real world, well, you are certainly getting paid royally in this thread, in the comments and wishes, and thanks that are coming your way... in the only way we can pay you.

I have not been here as long nor can I offer much in the way of expertise, but I want to add my thanks to you and the other regulars here that make this a great "home" on the net.






  

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#56. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I, for one, would be very sad to see you go Shelly. Your posts are always accurate, to the point and helpful. When I see a topic I'm interested in, I immediately look to see what, if anything, Shelly has posted. I know I will get good information. Please stay!


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miztrialWed Feb-13-02 04:55 AM
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#59. "Thank you for being here Shelly"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 9)


          

Not a day goes by that I'm not constantly amazed at the depth of the knowledge exhibited by so many of the members here. I tell everyone I know to just come here and read and learn, even if they never get up the nerve to post a question. It took me a long time to do that myself as I've always preferred not to open my mouth and prove how dumb I was when it came to computers. But I learned that you will NOT learn if you don't look, listen and ask. I used to visit WinMag just to learn and read, and felt that I had stumbled upon a real treasure when I found PC911. What is so fascinating about this place is that the more you read from the various members, the better you get to know them, and appreciate the uniqueness of each one. I love the humor, the warmth and the knowledge folks are so generously willing to share. It helps restore my faith in humanity. I'm disappointed when I see some of the squabbles and vituperative threads that occasionally popup, and I often wonder do those people really talk like that to their friends??? I certainly agree that the best thing to do is to ignore the trouble makers and without reinforcement either positive or negative they will eventually slink away.

Thank you for staying Shelly, when I see a post from you....I can "take it to the bank" that whatever you say is accurate!

Anne


  

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#74. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Hiya Shelly

I too have noticed you haven't posted much lately. It's great to see that you're fine I know i am still only relatively new here, although with all my questions lately...it may not seem like that lol.. but you have helped me with some pc probs a few times and i have always noticed that your posts are to the point and very helpful and the way you go about it makes getting the answer that much better. Sometime i feel like a idiot with some of the questions i ask..but you and the others have never made me feel that way . TY . Just want you to know that all your help is GREATLY appreciated and i along with others are glad you have decided to stay on
Even though i don't post much in the way of Answers...although i have a few times..not that i know if it helped much..lol...i read through posts when my mind is not on my own pc probs...but i still try to give it a go..and if i don't know the answer, then i dont post..but i always read your posts when i can and i know that the job you do on here is one of importance to many people. I agree with you that thhere are a lot of people on here lately that just want to cause trouble...BLAAH @ them!! they are prolly just insecure anyway. Good to see that you didn't let them types of people turn you away from here. Keep up the Great work Shelly ..you ARE Appreciated by the Majority of us

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MontanaTue Feb-12-02 10:00 AM
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#31. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Yep, you're right Shelly, the newfound popularity of PC911 could very well be its downfall and it certainly wouldn't be the first time a forum site has been brought down by trolls. But ya'll asked for it, ya know. Build a better PC help site and the world will surf a super-highway path to your link.

The advice is always to ignore the trolls; don't respond and they'll go away if they don't get the attention they crave. Two things wrong with that. Even if everyone does successfully ignore them and they do go away, another one will soon replace him (maybe a her...nah). Second, trolls are almost impossible to ignore by all because there is just TOO DARN MUCH VOLATILE TESTOSTERONE in this forum. Some guy will always take the bait. Ok, maybe the occasional PMS addled female will enter the fray, but not as often. Maybe one week out of the month.}>

They're here, they're bores, they're trolls, learn to live with them or ignore them and even enjoy the occasional cat/dog fight for a diversion. Instead of responding to their taunts, use your sense of humor to get a laugh at their expense. Whatever you do Shelly,(and all) don't let them chase you off, don't let them win.

  

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#32. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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LMAO.
I'd say that pretty much hits the nail on the head Marie.

  

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MontanaTue Feb-12-02 10:21 AM
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#34. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Tue Feb-12-02 10:38 AM

  

          

be spending a lot of time on their computers-are always trying to bring the internet to a screeching halt? What will they do with their time if successful? OK, they may never be successful, but why take the chance

EDIT: And blinkety, blink to you too Spezi

  

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HoratioTue Feb-12-02 10:45 AM
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#36. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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"As for me, if you don't like my opinions, the way I write, or how I answer, Just avoid my posts. They're not hard to spot, I sign them big, with the name I've used for two thirds of a century."

Shelly,
I for one seek them out. If I don't have much time to spend on the forum, I will sometimes just look for a couple of posts with your name on them. I always learn something. I don't give a damn about your bedside manner. Hang in there. Don't let the creeps get you down. You are much appreciated here by those of us who are serious computer enthusiasts.

Horatio

  

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#40. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I followed you guys/gals from winmag to here & will find your new home if that ever occurs but hopefully it will remain here. I come for computer help & to read to increase my knowledge & the odd occasion help (someone always beats me to it*LOL*)others. If the thread title has nothing to do with puters I skip over it, save this one, that's because it had to do with Shelly. Thanks for tuffing it out & giving freely of your time & knowledge,take care,... Dave.

Dave101

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#37. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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They do the same thing parasites do; they know it is foolish to kill you, as they would die as well, so they just try to keep you sick as much as they can.



  

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#39. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Just ignore trolls and they will go away, it's their nature to stir sh*t in this life and that is probably what their job will be in the next.

Shelly, I can't say it any better than this, don't go!

  

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#41. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,
I need to add my thanks to all of the others offered up on this post for help you've provided me in the few months I've been visiting.
If all of the testamonials aren't enough, look at post #36 and take heart that one of the possible "culprits" in your anquish has the courage to apologize and the willingness to change. There will always be trolls around, and the number of them visiting a site will obviously increase even if the percentage doesn't. It's a compliment to you and the whole PC911 gang that this change occurs.

Dave

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#42. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly
I was sad to read your post. Please stay.

Joe

  

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#44. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I can't tell you how many times I have been struggling to help someone solve a computer problem and Shelly chimed in with the solution when I was about to give up.

That has given me the courage many times to try and help when otherwise I would not.

Shelly, as I have said before, you da man around here.

Thanks for being there and thanks for deciding to stay.




  

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ken kTue Feb-12-02 09:23 PM
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#45. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly, thank you for allways being here for us.

Please stay, we all need you...I surely do!




"Not all who wander are lost."-Tolkien

  

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#46. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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QUIZ!

What the difference between Shelly and a troll?

A: When the troll posts that he's fed up and leaving the site, everyone cheers his departure. When Shelly mentions that he's just contemplating it, look what happens.

A2: (Equal credit) The troll can be replaced.

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HauxfanTue Feb-12-02 10:39 PM
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#47. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Good Golly, Shelley, just look at all of the love these people have for you. I am glad that you found it in your heart to stay.

The world needs us "gruff old geezers" around once in a while.

Plus, look at this fact, they were looking for you before they knew you were thinking of leaving. You have to admit, that is pretty nice.

Goes to show, you are thought a lot of here. I, for one, am glad that you decided to stay.

Don't really need to say this, but, "Welcome Home!"


  

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#48. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I feel I need to add my thanks also to the list. I guess you would call me one of the lurkers, but I have sure learned alot and always
rely on Shelly to tell it like it is. It doesn't take long to figure out whose post to skip.

Ivaji

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LulieTue Feb-12-02 11:39 PM
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#49. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Tue Feb-12-02 11:41 PM

  

          

I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth too!

Shelly, please don't leave the forum. Although I am just a newbie, I have learned from you and the others on this wonderful board. I always value your advice and like to read your posts. If you haven't already figured it out, we care about you and don't want to see you leave.

And even though you may not hear it enough, I'm sure everyone can agree that you are greatly appreciated here

Lulie

  

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#50. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,
As a new member, may I say I appreciate the help you give in this forum. I hope you stay for many years to come.
R.Q.

  

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#51. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I'm one of those that sits on the sidelines most of the time. The last thing we need Shelly is for the quarterback to pack it in. Thanks for sticking around.

  

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#55. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Hey, I was just wondering if he was on vacation.


Seriously, many have expressed themselves a lot better than I ever could, so I'll just say thanks, Shelly.

  

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#57. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to BobMcG (Reply # 55)


          

I can't honestly say if I am one of the guys causing problems, I have been attacked by a certain person, but I am unsure if the way in which I write gets ppls back up, It is NOT my intention to ram advice down anyones throat and as far as I am aware I have avoided that.

What I do want to say is if ANYONE feels I am out of order please let me know at once.

Shelly you are appreciated & wanted, I would hate to think you quit under a cloud, stay with us & share your company with us, then you can gracefully retire, when YOU are ready & not when being forced to do so.
Don't let anyone steal your joy.

  

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#64. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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You're out of order, please send me all your extra hardware immediately.


Scott

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#58. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Wed Feb-13-02 04:34 AM

          

I used to take my car to a garage dpwn the street there and I knew the owner and all the 3 mechanics he kept working there. I could go down to the different work stations they had and bullshit with those guys and Bob, the owner, would come on over and talk while we watched the guy fix my car or lube it or whatever.
Bob got old and died and his daughter and her husband took it over.
They immediatly made a business of running the garage. Customers couldn't go past a white line painted on the floor, they wouldn't give you a ride home and a ride back to pick up your car, you had to sign a repair order and leave a deposit like a credit card or whatever. You couldn't talk to the new mechanics they hired after retiring the good old boys we all knew......

What they missed was it wasn't just a place to get the car fixed.

Shelly's the mechanic here. He still has time to fix your waterpump and adjust the points.........

  

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troy614Wed Feb-13-02 05:13 AM
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#60. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,
I am not to bright,but it seems pretty obvious that you are wanted and needed here,I always enjoy your post and hope to see more.
Maybe the only thing you should get upset about is that you let a troll(s) get to you.


In memory of Whipat and Tuff

  

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ShellyWed Feb-13-02 08:02 AM
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#61. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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I'm really overwhelmed by all of you're comments. Thank you to everyone!

Shelly

  

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MontanaWed Feb-13-02 08:43 AM
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#62. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to Shelly (Reply # 61)
Wed Feb-13-02 08:44 AM

  

          

Shelly-

Well, it's about GD time you made another appearance.

Are your ears burning, palms itching, or whatever superstitious crap that is suppose to happen when people are talking about you? Possibly, typing in a forum about a person causes different results Or were you just trolling for compliments?!?}>

OK, I'm too new here to be carrying on like this, but I've been reading you for 2 years now. You go away and well, I'll stay, but it won't be as informative or as devastatingly funny at times.


  

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RoperaWed Feb-13-02 08:55 AM
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#63. "I am not surprised Shelly"
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you get back what you give

  

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SidWed Feb-13-02 09:12 AM
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#65. "RE: I am not surprised Shelly"
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Wow, Shel, I just got here. Man, you quit, I quit. I can't imagine PC911 without you and your good shit. You've helped a million of us suckers out of dumbass problems and given so much more in asides that are often ascerbic with just the right amount of seasoning (I am truly fond of Tabasco and jalapenos)....

... and, you.

.
Onward & Upward !
Sid

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micksterWed Feb-13-02 09:18 AM
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#66. "RE: I am not surprised Shelly"
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Wed Feb-13-02 09:20 AM

          

You've definitely rubbed off on me Shelly!
I miss Casca and all his..."stuff".
The trolls are Xtremely annoying, but do make me appreciate the good'uns.
I was ready to walk too...not that anyone would notice this'un missing, but I do miss that family feel that we used to have.
I'm glad you're staying!
Thanks for all the perfect guidance...and the tolerance of my foolishness/ignorance/intolerance/arrogance...etc., etc. etc.!

  

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MontanaWed Feb-13-02 09:39 AM
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#67. "RE: I am not surprised Shelly"
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Wed Feb-13-02 09:42 AM

  

          

>>>I miss Casca and all his..."stuff".<<<

Casca??? I've seen his name mentioned many times. Who Casca? Any links?

www.abuzz.com has the software to die for. You could easily find your past interactions/posts from the very beginning as well as everyone else's!


  

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AlWed Feb-13-02 03:15 PM
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#71. "RE: I am not surprised Shelly"
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You don't want to know. Really.



  

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miztrialWed Feb-13-02 03:40 PM
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#72. "RE: I am not surprised Shelly"
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>Casca??? I've seen his name mentioned many times. Who Casca?>

Montana, if I may coin a borrowed phrase from Shelly..."If you'd met him you would know it!" Casca is one of the glorious personalities of PC911 who has also been missing far too long...when he surfaces watch out!


  

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vitaltWed Feb-13-02 09:46 AM
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#68. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly
thanks for the good laughs the great information and the short and to the point clear as a bell answers...ive learned a lot by reading your posts and i hope to learn more from reading them for a long time to come...thanks for sticking around...

(pssst...you'll need to post new ones i still can't figure out how to get the search feature to work right)





Vitalt

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DittoDittoheadWed Feb-13-02 10:27 AM
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#69. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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A couple of things I have done lately have contributed to a bad atmosphere. I jumped all over Keith Hall when I might have made a constructive comment instead. Then, when called to task about it, I decided that I would start an argument and really let someone have it with both barrels. Thankfully the argument was declined. These actions were definitely not in the friendly, helpful spirit of PC911 and I am sorry that I acted that way.

PC911 needs you, Shelly.

Please stay.

  

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t_bareWed Feb-13-02 10:55 AM
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#70. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly, the fact is that if you go, there just isnt a forum.

Might be a perfect time to be around here, i'm thinkin it's gonna get good.

Thanks again for the kick in the ass (pardon me).. i needed it.

t_bare



  

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#73. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
In response to t_bare (Reply # 70)


  

          

Shelley, I would miss you as well. Please don't quit posting. I started getting into PC's about 13 years ago. Although I've learned a lot over the years, I find it mind-boggling how much I don't know. I found this site several months ago and I absolutely have to come here everyday just to see what wise information you give. Anytime I've asked a question you and other knowledgeable folks here have always pointed me in the right direction. Please stay and continue to help.

Jazzgirl's .02

Jazzgirl

  

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Hardware FreekThu Feb-14-02 01:28 AM

  
#75. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Is this the most posted topic in PC911's history? If not it soon will be!

Do you think Shelly may be wanted

  

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micksterThu Feb-14-02 01:36 AM
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#76. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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...for those that blinked last week, Casca actually made a VERY brief appearance. His UD results and points suddenly took a major jump immediately after that brief visit. I think he saw me tailgating him and got that Cascaesque attitude.

  

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ShellyThu Feb-14-02 02:25 AM
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#77. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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The last report I heard was that Casca had completed the new reinforced concrete bunker, and has replaced the alligators in the moat with imported crocodiles and piranha. Phase two is imminent!

Shelly

  

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Paul DThu Feb-14-02 02:43 AM
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#78. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Australian crocodiles, I believe!



Paul D

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ShellyThu Feb-14-02 02:49 AM
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#79. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Yes, I had heard they were swimming backwards.

Shelly

  

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General_KThu Feb-14-02 03:17 AM
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#80. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Paul,

Aren't Aussie crocs especially nasty?


  

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Paul DThu Feb-14-02 03:28 AM
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#81. "RE: Australian wildlife (getting OT here!)"
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Thu Feb-14-02 03:28 AM

  

          

Well, I wouldn't like to meet one up close and personal!

The big saltwater ones are absolute brutes, and grow to an enormous size. They've been known to take fully grown buffaloes. We also have a little fresh water variety that are pretty harmless.

Have you seen any of Steve Irwin's TV shows? Apparently he's a sensation in the US, but most Aussies think he's a bit of a joke.

And as for Crocodile Dundee, the less said the better.



Paul D

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sixpacThu Feb-14-02 03:34 AM
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#82. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Shelly,please stay,without you it just wouldn't be the same here.You have taught us a great deal here and also at winmag.To me you are a legend and a great teacher who inspires everyone who wants to take the time to learn,thanks once again

  

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MontanaSun Feb-17-02 10:53 AM
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#83. "RE: Haven't Seen Shelly Post Lately"
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Casca!?! Oh my, this is hum, interesting...

http://www.pcnineoneone.com/dcforum/computer/34091.html#3

  

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