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Marty66Sat Jan-12-08 03:18 PM
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"Immigration"


          

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RETSFCLMon Jan-07-08 05:12 AM
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#1. "RE: Immigration"
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Yep it's really getting outta hand. Need to get it curbed and badly.

  

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#2. "RE: Immigration"
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Very Interesting " sorta like everyone peeing in the oceans at the same time and expecting a tidal wave !

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EthanMon Jan-07-08 02:16 PM
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#3. "RE: Immigration"
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Welcome to the Forum Marty66. I hope you came to participate and not just to defecate once.

Ethan

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"Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me? I took it all from them." - Edward Filene

  

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Marty66Mon Jan-07-08 03:58 PM
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#4. "RE: Immigration"
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You can call it defecation if you like but some people take the matter seriously.

  

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#5. "RE: Immigration"
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You can call it defecation if you like but some people take the matter seriously.


I just think it is a very heavy entry into an established forum. If you intend to stick around (your reply indicates that you do) WELCOME.

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#26. "RE: Immigration"
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I just think it is a very heavy entry into an established forum.

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Don't sorry Ethan, something tells me we will not be seeing much of this troll after a while. We've all seen trolls come & go over the years. Just like some viruses make a grand entrance and fade with a whimper.

  

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Dave101Fri Jan-11-08 04:26 AM
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#27. "RE: Immigration"
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Don't sorry Ethan, something tells me we will not be seeing much of this troll after a while. We've all seen trolls come & go over the years. Just like some viruses make a grand entrance and fade with a whimper.


Something tells me he'll be here longer the you King of the TROLLS if you continue on your current pot stirring streak!!!

Yea & come to think of it Johnjohn you being a TROLL without a pic, name or state/city hiding behind your monitor sure stuck around a long time. Good thing you at least know to keep your trap shut in the comp forum otherwise you would got the boot a long time ago!!!

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#28. "RE: Immigration"
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Fri Jan-11-08 04:53 AM by _Chewy_

  

          

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Something tells me he'll be here longer the you King of the TROLLS if you continue on your current pot stirring streak!!!

Yea & come to think of it Johnjohn you being a TROLL without a pic, name or state/city hiding behind your monitor sure stuck around a long time. Good thing you at least know to keep your trap shut in the comp forum otherwise you would got the boot a long time ago!!!



LOL!! Dave - spoken like a true hypocrite who is completely blind to the snot dripping from his nose. Take a look around you and see who's contributed more to the computer forum. Woof woof - va va chien!

Oh and by the way Dave101 - since you like to stir the pot so much - I thought you'd like to have a trip down memory lane. While you're at it, try & keep upright rather than looking like a drunk slobbering fool you usually are.

http://www.pcqanda.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=120854&mesg_id=120854&page=#120858

  

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#29. "RE: Immigration"
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Edit, edit,edit. Hmm good to go down memory lane. Try reading giseuda's post right under mine,DUH!!! Geeze for a pro troll your sure losing your touch. Your making me look good every time you edit, thanks Johnjohn. Here just for you.

http://www.flowgo.com/funny/11898_internet-troll-man.html

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_Chewy_Fri Jan-11-08 05:23 AM
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#30. "RE: Immigration"
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Edit, edit,edit. Hmm good to go down memory lane. Try reading giseuda's post right under mine,DUH!!! Geeze for a pro troll your sure losing your touch. Your making me look good every time you edit, thanks Johnjohn. Here just for you.

http://www.flowgo.com/funny/11898_internet-troll-man.html


You're the biggest hypocrite troll we have to date - by far. Reaching for straws everytime aren't you? Stick to what you know best rather than google searches. Running out of kibbles & bits yet? Ready for a biscuit?...or would you prefer that I beat you with a stick?

  

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#31. "RE: Immigration"
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God this is stupid.

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#33. "RE: Immigration"
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Maybe but someone's gotta straighten this TROLL out!!!

BTW this is what he thinks of you:

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What do you know about character? You dare go up against Noreen & James who have seen much more of the world than you could ever imagine, telling them they just "don't get it". Here's a newsflash for you whipper, some of the oldest & wisest people who have far more intellect than you could muster up are telling you to reconsider your thoughts on this and you pretty much are telling them to go shove it.

You're just another young punk who knows nothing of the world. You announce on this forum how you're 26, 6 months away from turning 27 and we're supposed to be impressed by that? James was right and I'll say it again - you're a man child who values his what little intellect you've displayed here like a hobo would value his last change of clothes.

And to Noreen & James if you're reading this, I sadly say that everything that is wrong with America's youth is exemplified in ablib's blabbering in this thread. I wish I could say he is th exception rather than the norm, but our country has produced nothing but young punks who have no regard for history or for people have lived through it.

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#32. "RE: Immigration"
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You're the biggest hypocrite troll we have to date - by far. Reaching for straws everytime aren't you? Stick to what you know best Davd101


HahaheheLOLOLO my sides are hurting, I can see the drool on your chin & the steam outta your ears, you can't even spell my name haha!!! Hurry & edit. Too late chum.

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#34. "RE: Immigration"
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HahaheheLOLOLO my sides are hurting, ...you can't even spell my name haha!!!


All this coming from a trailer trash who cannot even manage to use basic grammar. LMAO.... My occasional typos are nothing compared to your slop.

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#35. "RE: Immigration"
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Nite, nite Johnjohn come again but with something new not the same old, same old. Ya sound like a broken record. Go to your other message boards & pratice, your losing your touch big time. Bonsoire!!!

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#36. "RE: Immigration"
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Nite, nite Johnjohn come again but with something new not the same old, same old. Ya sound like a broken record. Go to your other message boards & pratice, your losing your touch big time. Bonsoire!!!


pratice... oh yeah... I'll pratice plenty. Learn to use a dictionary once in a while. Is that duel boot or dual boot? I've always thought you were just an ignorant hypocrite but now I know you're just a troll. Bon Soire ane!

  

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#37. "RE: Immigration"
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If English is Dave's second language, he's pretty good at it and I envy him. I've always wanted to be proficient at a second language. His English is way better than what I can pass as Spanish.

Visit the Basement

  

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#38. "RE: Immigration"
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If English is Dave's second language, he's pretty good at it and I envy him. I've always wanted to be proficient at a second language. His English is way better than what I can pass as Spanish.


It passes for dog food whipper. I've heard 13 yr old kids with better grammar. English is really not his 2nd language. He would like to pretend it is... but truly... troll speak is what he knows best.

  

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#39. "RE: Immigration"
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I've heard 13 yr old kids with better grammar


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#42. "RE: Immigration"
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Fri Jan-11-08 09:55 AM by jazz4free

  

          

Of course it's his second language. Dave says that he writes as he speaks, and his posts accurately reflect the voice of the majority of my friends here in Quebec whose mother tongue is French and who acquired their English, as I did my French, on the street.

While I disagree with much (almost everything) of what Dave has to say about anything, I admire his courage to engage others, others who should hold an enormous advantage, on their home field. And I empathize with him completely.

For some, like me, it is difficult to "think" and express ones self in a tongue that is foreign. We shouldn't also have to deal with unilingual fools sniggering at our sincere effort.

But, apparently, we do.

  

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#46. "RE: Immigration"
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We shouldn't also have to deal with unilingual fools sniggering at our sincere effort.

But, apparently, we do.


English is also my 2nd language as I was not born in this country. I know all about the difficulty in expressing oneself in a language not native to their own. Of course I wouldn't mind his "sincere efforts" if he didn't defecate on the boards - thinking his speech was some sort of an art form.

With Dave's - he's usually more interested in spewing out insults so fast, he cares nothing but about his own ego & satisfying his childish impulses. And that is the true reason behind his sloppy writing style.

  

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#47. "RE: Immigration"
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Well, unlike you, I can't speak to Dave's motivation.

He says he drops in here at the Off Topic once in a while to keep things honest (an insult, really, to the inadequate folks he thinks share his philosophy), so I trust he says that with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

If not, then I agree, he is a tad more hubris and arrogant than me.

I don't want to go too far in my criticism -- after all, he owns a firearm and has a licence to kill things with it. And the older I get the more and more I resemble a moose.

If he catches me out after dark he could actually claim mistaken identity. Especially when you take into consideration the coke bottles he sports.

  

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#48. "RE: Immigration"
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What you said is about sick as it gets. Moose hunting and his eyeglasses. Maybe you should have another Molson.

  

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#49. "RE: Immigration"
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You can't be serious?

Have we attracted yet another half wit?

  

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#82. "RE: Immigration"
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I think Marty is a recently departed friend re-incarnated with a new handle myself.

  

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#85. "RE: Immigration"
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Sad stuff...

But when I was twenty-six-and-a-half-years-old I once misrepresented myself to a beautiful girl in a bar as a crippled Viet Nam vet.

That didn't work and I hope he, who is a valued member here (and my foil) will not do further nonsense.

  

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#91. "RE: Immigration"
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Folks, Marty66 is Giseuda and is still a useless troll.

Grogan

  

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#54. "RE: Immigration"
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I don't want to go too far in my criticism -- after all, he owns a firearm and has a licence to kill things with it. And the older I get the more and more I resemble a moose.

If he catches me out after dark he could actually claim mistaken identity. Especially when you take into consideration the coke bottles he sports.


This is at least the second time you have equated recreational firearm use to taking someone out. Why? You seem to think all guns do bad things. They do not.

Nightly Reader

  

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#55. "RE: Immigration"
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I'm guessing it is a joke...

Just like I have a friend who is a police officer. I joke that I don't want to piss him off because he carries a gun. That does not necessarily imply that I think police officers shoot people for no reason.

Light hearted banter...

James says enough things that are intended to sting. This one wasn't. Give him a little break, and nail him when he actually means it....

  

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nightlyreaderFri Jan-11-08 06:15 PM
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#59. "RE: Immigration"
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I have good relationships with several of the local LEOs, a couple are neighbors and some I have known since, well, forever. I would not joke with any of them like that. Nor would they to me.

Nightly Reader

  

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#60. "RE: Immigration"
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Perhaps that's the difference between "friends" and "neighbors". He has a friend. You have neighbors.

Jim.

  

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#68. "RE: Immigration"
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Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM by JohnnyReb

  

          

Apparently your relationship is not that "good."

What is your point? Don't joke with your friends?

Read my post. The point wasn't how it is cool to joke with people you know in law enforcement. It was about cooling your jets before jumping on James.



PS I'm sorry.... Should I have said "LEO" instead of "police officer?" Seems like YOU think that is the COOL thing to say....

  

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#76. "RE: Immigration"
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Guns kill. I hate f'n guns.

Guns kill squirrels in Field and Stream and a child in the neighbor's bedroom.

Hardly anyone ever shoots a bandit.

  

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#80. "RE: Immigration"
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Here is one, not long ago at that, I'll bet nobody with bad intentions is coming around his house anymore.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/17/national/main3517564.shtml?source=mostpop_story



  

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#90. "RE: Immigration"
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Sat Jan-12-08 05:22 AM by _Chewy_

  

          

Quote:
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Well, unlike you, I can't speak to Dave's motivation.

He says he drops in here at the Off Topic once in a while to keep things honest (an insult, really, to the inadequate folks he thinks share his philosophy), so I trust he says that with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

If not, then I agree, he is a tad more hubris and arrogant than me.

I don't want to go too far in my criticism -- after all, he owns a firearm and has a licence to kill things with it. And the older I get the more and more I resemble a moose.

If he catches me out after dark he could actually claim mistaken identity. Especially when you take into consideration the coke bottles he sports.


Sometimes I have to wonder how many flip flop positions you're going to take. One minute you're chummy with Adam and the next minute you're cussing him out. Next you come back to apologize to him and then you're back to berating him. Reading the past banter here between you and Dave101 - I have to wonder just how many bourbon shots you've had today? What sort of epiphany have you had about our resident troll that you are now cozying up to him and giving him so much credit? Mon Dieu!

  

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#51. "RE: Immigration"
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Hmmm ' Not being a natural born citizen of the U.S. eh,perhaps that explans your secretive nature John John.or is it Jose,Jose,? In any event.It would be refreshing if for one post you could refrain from being so belligerent

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#58. "RE: Immigration"
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Hmmm ' Not being a natural born citizen of the U.S. eh,perhaps that explans your secretive nature John John.or is it Jose,Jose,?


LOL. That & being a TROLL!!! Don't expect a reply this afternoon because TROLLS operate mostly late night & early early morning. They drop their bait at all the forums they disrupt & return the next evening to see if they got any bites.

It's to bad Chewie didn't reform himself before he joined this forum. He seems very knowlegable in computers. Thing is he started off trolling & now he's stuck in his secrecy & probably will never be able to reveal his true identity. How sad!!!

I know all this cuz I was called upon to moderate hunting sites that were disrupted by trolls & flamers. It was easy to get rid of them cuz I had access to their IP & could trace them to their town & ISP with tracing software.

I've quit that because it was getting boring but I still kept my yahoo e-mail that bears my job title. trollslayer_2000@yahoo.com



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#87. "RE: Immigration"
In response to Dave101 (Reply # 58)
Sat Jan-12-08 03:54 AM by _Chewy_

  

          

Quote:
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Don't expect a reply this afternoon because TROLLS operate mostly late night & early early morning. They drop their bait at all the forums they disrupt & return the next evening to see if they got any bites.

It's to bad Chewie didn't reform himself before he joined this forum. He seems very knowlegable in computers. Thing is he started off trolling & now he's stuck in his secrecy & probably will never be able to reveal his true identity. How sad!!!

I know all this cuz I was called upon to moderate hunting sites that were disrupted by trolls & flamers. It was easy to get rid of them cuz I had access to their IP & could trace them to their town & ISP with tracing software.

I've quit that because it was getting boring but I still kept my yahoo e-mail that bears my job title. trollslayer_2000@yahoo.com





The more you flame and yakkity yakkity, the more you show everyone here who the real troll is. I'd say you're overly pathetic, but most trolls keep defecating until they just get bored with themselves.

By the way Dave, throwing your feces around & hoping it sticks somewhere does not count as 'art' form. Something tells me that you'll see the same exit door as Guiseda. Just keep yakking your gums and show everyone your true colors as the biggest troll on the boards.

  

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#89. "RE: Immigration"
In response to _Chewy_ (Reply # 87)
Sat Jan-12-08 04:32 AM by Dave101

  

          

Right on time!!!

Edit:

Quote:
Something tells me that you'll see the same exit door as Guiseda


WOOOO I'm shakin in my boots.

Troll = You, no identity, to chicken shit to reveal yourself. I wouldn't want punks like you watching my back if the situation arised, if you know what I mean!!!

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#40. "RE: Immigration"
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Nice to see you didn't stay away too long Adam!

  

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#44. "RE: Immigration"
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Quote:
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Nice to see you didn't stay away too long Adam!


Seconded

Tone
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#41. "RE: Immigration"
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Good morning Adam.

  

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#43. "RE: Immigration"
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Yeah, what's cookin', Whipper?

  

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#6. "RE: Immigration"
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I can understand the concern when it comes to illegal immigrants.

So what do we do with all the legal/oppressed immigrants?

Close our borders ans send them back to where they came from?

Sounds like allot of people were concerned about the same problem around 1900.

Turns out that at least 99% of those early 20th century immigrants and their descendants made and are still making this country as great and as free it is.

  

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#7. "RE: Immigration"
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Close our borders ans send them back to where they came from?

Which group are you referring to? Illegal or legal? If you meant illegal then the answer to your question is Yes.
Due to the failure of our national government to enforce its primary function of enforcing current law, securing and defending our national boundaries, and defending citizens from an invasion by citizens from foreign countries the states have begun individually to take action of their own. The end result is the illegal occupants will self-deport.

  

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#8. "RE: Immigration"
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I agree with dealing with illegal immigration according to the law with exception to those coming from an oppressive country.

About those who are allowed by law to migrate to this country I have no problem with that.

It's what makes our country what it is.

The law is the law, but because of the size of our borders closing our borders is almost impossible unless we look at the history of other countries and throw up a red, white and blue wall/curtain.

Haven't we had enough with walls and curtains.

They only turn out to be the same as prison barriers.

  

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#9. "RE: Immigration"
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Excuse me but isn't the Us a country of immigrants or do you mean whites only.

Probably will get flamed for this but would like an answer.

  

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#10. "RE: Immigration"
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No, it means that all are welcome as long as they follow our laws in gaining entry.



  

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#11. "RE: Immigration"
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Does that include the WhiteEyes?


DavyWavy -

  

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#12. "RE: Immigration"
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Along with the Red Skins.



  

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#16. "RE: Immigration"
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Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels would be real proud of him.

The "Green curve" representing so-called "present day" Americans, include a factor of say 7 to 1 favoring whites.
His fear tactic then is to ignore the fact the 1,000,000 or so legal immigrants every year usually only factors in ( "Favored") immigrants.
What is inferred in his "Red-scape scenario of fear mongering" is immigration in the future in the US will be so out of control (thereby inferring the complete breakdown of immigration control in the US), that a "Brown tide of humanity” will inundate the US.

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I am reminded how he stated early on a fact many in the United States did not know (this former reporter did however) but he used a smarter-fear mongering term: fact: the US reached ZPG (“Zero Population Growth”) in 1973.
Eugenicist’s had earlier predicted ZPG would not be reached until the early 90’s, them saying “Welfare women would still be proliferating babies until then.
Surprise!: “Welfare women” wisely started using free birth control methods (which the eugenicists’ (mostly white males) predicted Black and Brown women would not do. They had not thought of minorities being smart enough to use "The Pill", and so the birth rate dropped precipitously so by 1973, the entire* US population reached ZPG..
*What is not being said (but inferred) in his presentation is the white population in America is far below ZPG, an ominous portent for whites.

I’ve often noted how whites would become a political minority by 2030, his “Green curve” also representing the drastic dying off of whites (as a percentage of the American population) due to the continued ZPG rates for whites.


Factually, in sheer numbers as to the precipitous rise of his “Red-curve”, he is dead wrong.
Inferentially, his is dead on correct.
*Remember, his “Green curve” is all of us-right now.

He flat-out lied as to the suddenness of his “Red curve”, his graphic presentation being designed to raise the fears of whites against all immigrants, who, no matter what shape his red curve takes, or whenever it happens, will insure his boards more or less predict the Gotterdammerung of whites in the USA;
glad I’ll be gone by then.

  

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#19. "RE: Immigration"
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#23. "RE: Immigration"
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Was that a reply to my tongue in cheek answer to DavyWavy? I fail to see any connection.



  

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#13. "RE: Immigration"
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Marty - Welcome to the forum. Please don't expect much in the way of intelligent reply to your post (all the local ostriches have their head's stuck firmly and deeply in the sand regarding this issue).

It's almost a foregone conclusion that none of them even bothered to watch the video - or that if they did watch part or all of it, that they'll believe it.

They trot out the same tired old "false flags" - "America was a country of immigrants back-in-the-day - why not now?" (Completely and purposely over-looking the fact that what we're concerned with is the ILLEGAL aliens NOT the legal ones.

"What are you gonna do - send them all back?" (No, I just want our borders locked down so that we can avert precisely the scenario laid out in the clip you posted).

What tired, sad replies they come up with. And then they resort to "humor" to further destroy the thread.

Or you'll be called a "racist" (when you should be being recognized as a realist).

We're drowning in illegals, Marty - you're right. If every single legitmate, legal citizen of this country doesn't fight to shut off the flow from across the border, they will bury our national identity and hasten the bankruptcy of this nation.

Stay informed and really contact your Representative and BOTH of your Senators when immigration issues arise that concern you.

Because if you don't, both the legal lower and middle class of this country will be destroyed.

It's pretty obvious, really, once one stops being a bleeding-heart liberal and looks at the facts. Pete

  

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#14. "RE: Immigration"
In response to spy1 (Reply # 13)
Thu Jan-10-08 09:16 PM by JohnnyReb

  

          

Come on Spew1... Have you been called a racist? Xenophobe - yes. Paranoid - yes. Psycho - uh huh. Ass - you betcha. I don't recall anyone calling you a racist in so many words. But I suppose it might fit.

Better close the blinds, I saw a black helicopter circling your house a while back...

EDIT: Damn... I forgot the way to deal with this guy was to ignore him. (5'll get you ten he says "Good, I don't care if people living OUTSIDE the US ignore me." )

  

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#15. "RE: Immigration"
In response to spy1 (Reply # 13)


  

          

Quote:
It's almost a foregone conclusion that none of them even bothered to watch the video - or that if they did watch part or all of it, that they'll believe it.

They trot out the same tired old "false flags" - "America was a country of immigrants back-in-the-day - why not now?" (Completely and purposely over-looking the fact that what we're concerned with is the ILLEGAL aliens NOT the legal ones.


Apparently it's you that didn't watch the video.

Try watching it again and listen closely for the terms "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant". Hint: You won't hear either. Why? Because the speaker is discussing legal immigration. He may be as alarmed as you over illegal immigration - he doesn't say because that is not what he is expounding upon. He is talking about legal immigrants. He doesn't like the current government policy. Duh!

But thanks for the gratuitous attacks on your fellow forum members. If you visited and contributed something to the forum other than your usual paranoia, you'd know that Marty has lurked for years and is fully aware of the various personalities.

Jim.

  

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#17. "RE: Immigration"
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Marty - See what I mean?

And KJT? He was talking about "immigrants" and "immigration" period - he never specified "legal" or "illegal".

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immigrant :

"1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence."

You think the amount of legal immigrants is what's causing California's (and other States') financial and infrastructure problems?

Puh-lease.

But it's okay - if the problem's that bad simply from LEGAL immigrants, imagine how much MORE horrendous it'll be when one adds in the ILLEGALS.

I can hardly wait for civilization as we know it to totally collapse, so that a lot of you can get what you SO richly deserve.

(Which reminds me, Marty - they'll attempt to insult your intelligence at every step - because that's all they've got on their side of the argument.

It good for chuckles and grins, and that's about it. Later, people. Pete

  

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#18. "RE: Immigration"
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Well, Pete, I have yet to see you carry on a civil discussion with anyone who even mildly questioned your viewpoints. Why should you expect any better in return. You spam this board with your cut and paste talking points from Paranoid Weekly, and then get irate when someone brings up evidence / views to the contrary.

But I hope you do get a friend in Marty. Then there will be someone to keep you company here.

  

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#20. "RE: Immigration"
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Quote:
But I hope you do get a friend in Marty. Then there will be someone to keep you company here.


Don't count on that happening. Like Jim said Marty's been lurking for years & something tells me he'll be a good debater when the election heats up!!!

Dave101

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#63. "RE: Immigration"
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Quote:
Well, Pete, I have yet to see you carry on a civil discussion with anyone who even mildly questioned your viewpoints.


There's a first for everything!!! Post #57 & #61.

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#64. "RE: Immigration"
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You've got to be kidding. Re-read #61.

Here's an edited, abbreviated excerpt:

Quote:
"I really don't know why I bother. With a few notable exceptions (not just here, but elsewhere as well),".... "It seems quite a few are too STUPID to deserve what we have"



If you think that's "civil", well, then we have a vast divergence of opinion.

Jim.

  

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#65. "RE: Immigration"
In response to KJT (Reply # 64)
Fri Jan-11-08 08:04 PM by Dave101

  

          

Depends how you take it. I took that "STUPID" remark as meaning the majority of the US & a few here who refuse to do or help in the immigration issue.

I can't speak for you or anyone else but if you took that as meaning all members of this forum then I can see what your getting at!!!

Edit: I think we always did have a vast divergence of opinion.

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#21. "RE: Immigration"
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You didn't view it again did you. I didn't think you would.

Jim.

  

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#22. "RE: Immigration"
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Yes, KJT, I did. I heard ONE reference to "immigration QUOTAS" at the end.

You still beg the obvious point (because you don't have a rebuttal, of course) - if the situation is that bad just counting the LEGAL "immigrants" - it'll be tenfold worse when you add in the ILLEGALS.

I don't owe illegal immigrants anything:

I don't owe them health care

I don't owe them an education

I don't want my tax dollars WASTED on housing (detaining) either the illegals themselves OR the illegal criminals that are over-crowding our prison system

I don't WANT the drugs they bring across the border - nor do I want my children, friends or neighbors to have them

I don't owe them taxpayer-funded assistance in any way shape fashion or form - they don't deserve it because they are criminals.

I, on the other hand, am owed a secure border - it is one of the very FEW legitimate purposes of having a Federal government to start with.

Regardless of whatever "services" the hard-working ones provide, their end result (and the end result of all the CHILDREN they have here) will be the destruction of all of our social safety nets, the bastardizing of American culture and language and the destruction of the American middle class.

Why would anyone be in favor of granting them "rights" to which they have no legal, moral or ethical claim to?

As a nation, we seem hell-bent on suicide. Pete

  

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#24. "RE: Immigration"
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Quote:
(because you don't have a rebuttal, of course)


Frankly I don't see who could have a rebuttal!!! Good post.

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#52. "RE: Immigration"
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Why, for Christ's sake, are you involving yourself in an issue, U.S. immigration policy, where I'm almost certain your opinion as a Canadian (as would be mine) is not only irrelevant but totally uncalled for?

If you wish to present yourself as something other than a blabbering color man standing along the sideline cheering the right, perhaps you would be better served casting a smaller and more selective net when it comes to the subject matter you choose to argue.

But, if you enjoy playing the part of a bloody intrusive fool with little to offer but insult and willful incitement...please, continue.

My admiration for your bi-lingual abilities is wearing very thin. You are turning out to be just another fool who can distribute his nonsense in two languages.

  

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#53. "RE: Immigration"
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Quote:
But, if you enjoy playing the part of a bloody intrusive fool with little to offer but insult and willful incitement...please, continue.

My admiration for your bi-lingual abilities is wearing very thin. You are turning out to be just another fool who can distribute his nonsense in two languages.


1: Please point out in my post to spy1 where I insulted him or willfully incited him!!!

2: Never asked anyone to admire my bi-lingual abilities, just pointed it out to get the grammar professors off my case. Now that most know, that subject will never be brought up again. At least by moi.

3:You are turning out to be just another fool who can distribute his nonsense in two languages.


Are those the type of insults & incitement your accusing me of doing?
Not a good example if your mission is to reform your fellow posters!!!

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Marty66Fri Jan-11-08 06:46 PM
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#62. "RE: Immigration"
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Dave, your English has become markedly better. Beats the hell out of my Francais

  

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Dave101Fri Jan-11-08 08:11 PM
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#66. "RE: Immigration"
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Nice to know someone can understand! You can use the character map in window$ to change the c to ç in Français. Always willing to help anyone who makes the effort!!!

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jazz4freeFri Jan-11-08 09:29 PM
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#69. "RE: Immigration"
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Fri Jan-11-08 09:37 PM by jazz4free

  

          

Why, when you are challenged does your English become lucid?

All bets are off.

  

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Dave101Fri Jan-11-08 09:56 PM
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#70. "RE: Immigration"
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That reply has nothing to do with post #53!

Just say you can't post a rebuttal to post # 53 et c'est fini!!!

BTW what bets???

Dave101

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 12:16 AM
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#71. "RE: Immigration"
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I wish to reform no one. But, at every opportunity, I'll attempt to influence everyone to my point of view. And I will be in your face while I do it and will not dissemble.

But I will no longer address you, specifically, in French because your latest post surprisingly reveals you have proved yourself more than capable of expressing yourself in English.

If we are to exchange commentary you will have to become more precise in your objective. Come here and say something other than the facile. Or something more than a condemnation without reason of those who disagree with you.

As far as I'm concerned, you are but a player on the third line and have yet to score, or even assist, a goal.

  

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Dave101Sat Jan-12-08 01:20 AM
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#78. "RE: Immigration"
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But I will no longer address you, specifically, in French because your latest post surprisingly reveals you have proved yourself more than capable of expressing yourself in English.


WTF are you talking about? I never asked you to address me in french & couldn't careless if you do or don't. One minute you say I write like the majority of your quebecers friends now you say I have a ba in english. Get a grip, you accuse me of insulting & inciting Pete & I ask you to show me in my post where I did that. You can't cuz I didn't. Case freakin closed. Another thread you say I have coke glasses & in fact their bifocals. Plus your freakin little joke of owning firearms & taking people out was plain freakin stupid of you.
NR said it best, there's no joking about firearms. Firearms aren't toys & my license is very important to me, I follow the canadian laws by the book monsieur no it all. Another thing is your no good at debating & you never were & if you think that the immigration situation in the states have nothing to do with us your in dreamland. It has everything to do with us & I'll stick my nose in it if im damm well please so until you learn how to debate, stay the hell out of posts.

Dave101

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 03:20 AM
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#86. "RE: Immigration"
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"WTF am I'm talking about?"

It's about you, sweetheart.

You think yourself too cute for words. You come here, usually to insert yourself in the midst of a discussion, impose yourself a self-appointed umpire, lecture us on our inadequacy and profess yourself the champion of reason.

Obviously, you have no sense of humor, can not take a jibe, and are just generally full of Canadian shit.

  

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KJTFri Jan-11-08 03:50 AM
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#25. "RE: Immigration"
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Fri Jan-11-08 03:51 AM by KJT

  

          

As I've told you before - I'm glad I don't live in the America you do.

Jim.

  

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Marty66Fri Jan-11-08 01:47 PM
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#45. "RE: Immigration"
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At what temperature do you bake donut holes. Microwave or in the oven?

  

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MizeFri Jan-11-08 03:34 PM
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#50. "RE: Immigration"
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The only thing we owe the illegal immigrants is a swift kick in the ass out of America

This is one of many issues that is the reason this country is in the financial shape it's in. We are wasting billions of dollars on them and another war we can't possibly win.

WAKE UP and take a stand, contact your senators and state representatives on this issue, they do listen to the people.

  

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#56. "RE: Immigration"
In response to Mize (Reply # 50)
Fri Jan-11-08 05:37 PM by Jordan

  

          

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contact your senators and state representatives on this issue, they do listen to the people

For years I operated under the same assumption but I have come to realize they may nod their head in agreement and speak in an eloquent and spellbinding manner but there is no smile behind the eyes. In today's world money talks and I mean BIG money. Individual contributions will get a thank you letter and pleas for more money. IMHO, the way to effect change is restrictive term limits.

  

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#57. "RE: Immigration"
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No one risks the trip to the USA because of the good weather there. They go there expecting employment even at slave wages. You have to nip the problem at the source. The employers of these illegals. Make employing them expensive by high fines. If there is no work they will stop coming.

Ethan

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#61. "RE: Immigration"
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I agree with that - but I'm also firmly convinced that a complete cessation of ANY kind of government benefits (be it housing, food stamps, WIC, free medical care, use of educational facilities, scholarships) by ILLEGAL immigrants would do as much or more - and more quickly. ALL government forms should be printed in ENGLISH and ENGLISH ONLY (and that should apply to hospitals, also) - with no "translators" allowed to do the form-filling for the one applying for whatever it is.

In addition, police forces nationwide should be MANDATED to check immigration status at any point of contact with ANY non-English-speaker - and lack of proper documentation should be grounds for as-close-to-instant ejection from the country without exception as possible.

NONE of this will work without a secure border - that's why it's absolutely traitorous on the part of the politician's to have gutted funding for the fence AFTER it was allocated ( http://www.firesociety.com/article/19402/ ).

The government desperately does NOT want this fence built - REGARDLESS of the will of the people. Not funding the fence is the only way they can keep the floodgates open for big business' need for cheap labor.

I really don't know why I bother. With a few notable exceptions (not just here, but elsewhere as well), it seems as though people merely look up as the shadow from the tidal wave arises - and then they go back to sun-bathing. It's amazing, really, and has caused me to seriously wonder whether we don't DESERVE to have our nation jerked out from under us.

It seems quite a few are too STUPID to deserve what we have (but which we're rapidly losing) - our national identity and our future earning power and standard-of-living.

Truly, my heart breaks when I see what's coming for my children and grandchildren. The people who should be protecting them from this (that would be us) are failing them miserably. Pete

  

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MizeSat Jan-12-08 12:35 AM
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#72. "RE: Immigration"
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I really don't mind foreigners in this country LEGALLY!

I come from German and Itialian ancestory. All came into this country legally. They have paid their fair share and we decendents are paying our fair share today. Problem is we now have to pay for the illegal scum streaming across our borders and change the way this country operates. "Press 1 for English", I NEVER thought I would see the day that would happen.

I have always felt if your in America learn to read, write, and speak English. Save your native tongue for when your at home or in the presence of others who speak the same language.

The children of today are going to have their hands full in the future if there is one for them, and I feel sorry for them all including my step-daughters.

Ethan has the right idea about high dollar fines for employers who hire the illegals, but I'm afraid none of us here will be around, if and when that happens.

As to the protection of our borders, bring our troops home and let them protect our borders......oh wait a minute, that's what they want to bring in troops from the UN to do....that and take away our second amendment rights so we can't even protect ourselves.

I believe there will be a civil war again in this country and I hope and pray I'm not around when it happens. If it ever does, I know my family and I will be ready

  

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 12:53 AM
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#73. "RE: Immigration"
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Holy Jesus Christ and all the saints in Heaven!

  

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Ed W.Sat Jan-12-08 01:13 AM
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#75. "RE: Immigration"
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Yes James, we are a bit busy but what can we do for you?

Ed W.

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 01:17 AM
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#77. "RE: Immigration"
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Busy about what?

  

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MizeSat Jan-12-08 01:43 AM
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#81. "RE: Immigration"
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Holy Jesus Christ and all the saints in Heaven!

James, that's the best you could come up with?

Illegal immigrants MUST GO, PERIOD. If they want to register with immigration, pay taxes and social security and become productive members of society then I'll welcome them with open arms and try and help them best I can, same as our ancestors did.

Too many American lives have been lost in wars to protect OUR FREEDOM.

Why should this country go down the tubes because of illegals coming into our country, taking over our language, our newspapers, flying their flags ABOVE the American Flag, draining our resources, and saying they have rights here too?

My best friend's dad had a saying he used in times like this and it's time to use it here.

IT'S BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT IN BIG CHUNKS!

  

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#74. "RE: Immigration"
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I believe there will be a civil war again in this country...

I agree there is another revolution brewing out here and the sooner we engage the better. It is not entirely about illegal immigration but other social issues that a large percentage of the population is getting fed up with being forced upon them with no recourse by a small minority.

  

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 01:26 AM
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#79. "RE: Immigration"
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Do any of you know what it takes to make a revolution?

What's your beef? Not enough garlic in the sauce? Plastic chopsticks with the takeout? Or a tax on tea?

  

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MizeSat Jan-12-08 02:14 AM
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#83. "RE: Immigration"
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Who's making a revolution?

I believe it's going to happen again in the United States in the future.

Did you watch the video?

Did you understand what he was talking about?

Have you closed your mind to the fact that America is spending billions on these illegals and we now have VETERANS who have served their country, defending OUR FREEDOM living in the streets HOMELESS?

Do you know we have children going to bed EVERY NIGHT hungry? Here in America?

Come on James, the writing is on the wall and people are getting fed up with it. It might not come in our lifetime and I hope I'm long gone when it does.

I don't post much here in this forum but I read a lot of what's said and this is one issue I just can't keep my mouth shut on. I'm a Navy veteran who served from '91 to '95 and as long as I'm alive I'll be damned if I sit back and watch America go down spending itself to death on illegals

  

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Marty66Sat Jan-12-08 02:20 AM
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#84. "RE: Immigration"
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Well Said!!!

  

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jazz4freeSat Jan-12-08 04:02 AM
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#88. "RE: Immigration"
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I'm Canadian.

Come on, James means nothing to me. We have a one-payer system here and that I'm still living is a testament to its efficacy.

  

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