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Paul DSat Dec-17-16 12:20 AM
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"FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"


  

          




https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-backs-cia-view-that-russia-intervened-to-help-trump-win-election/2016/12/16/05b42c0e-c3bf-11e6-9a51-cd56ea1c2bb7_story.html?utm_term=.e53e3570bb07

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion reflects the fact that the leaders of the three agencies have always been in agreement on Russian intentions, officals said, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA.

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

“The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI,” Brennan’s message read....




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jbmcmillanWed Dec-21-16 11:39 PM
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#1. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
In response to Paul D (Reply # 0)


          

Trump tweets suggests that the Dems only complained after Hillary lost which isn't true as far back as October the WH mentioned it and "complained".I get more depressed every day watching Trump picks and tweets and predict we are all in for a rough ride with this idiot in charge.

  

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toim4018Thu Dec-22-16 12:06 AM
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#2. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Thu Dec-22-16 12:06 AM by toim4018

          

Did Russia goof up in a Chicago precinct were more votes were recorded for Hillary than there were registered voters in that precinct?

  

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jbmcmillanThu Dec-22-16 01:00 AM
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#3. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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A link to your claim would be nice but overall there has been no evidence come to light about any widespread voter fraud unless you count idiot in chief's tweets.

  

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toim4018Thu Dec-22-16 01:09 AM
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#4. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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A link to your claim would be nice but overall there has been no evidence come to light about any widespread voter fraud unless you count idiot in chief's tweets.


I read one story about Chicago but here is another one about Detroit.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/vote-voting-machines-tally/2016/12/13/id/763804/

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

  

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jazz4freeThu Dec-22-16 01:15 AM
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#5. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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What in hell does any of that have to do with a foreign power interfering in your presidential election? Doesn't that piss you off?

  

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jbmcmillanThu Dec-22-16 01:24 AM
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#7. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I guess it doesn't when who you voted for won.lol

  

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toim4018Thu Dec-22-16 02:29 AM
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#8. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Thu Dec-22-16 02:30 AM by toim4018

          

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What in hell does any of that have to do with a foreign power interfering in your presidential election? Doesn't that piss you off?


It could have a lot to do with it and just saying there are other possible issues other than Russia. The story that I read the other day about Chicago had Hillary getting more votes than there were registered voters. So who made that happen?
Of course it bothers me if another country messed with the election. But has it been 100% proven. Can anyone say for sure other countries have not done the same?

  

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jbmcmillanThu Dec-22-16 05:12 AM
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#9. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Maybe not 100% but sure in the 90 percentile range and you just sound like you're rationalizing to make Trump sound less than the lunatic he is showing.I hope he shapes up and does a good job but it doesn't look promising.

  

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jazz4freeThu Dec-22-16 10:48 AM
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#10. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Thu Dec-22-16 10:54 AM by jazz4free

  

          

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It could have a lot to do with it and just saying there are other possible issues other than Russia.


Your vaunted intelligence and federal police services have on-the-record unequivocally stated that Russia, your new/old cold war foe, interfered deliberately and directly in your quasi-democratic electoral process. And all but the congenitally or deliberately stupid can see, by the evidence, that this was done to sway the election in favor of a Manchurian candidate.

So America has been sneak attacked at Pearl Harbor, the World Trade Center and now, perhaps most insidiously and dangerously of all, via cybernetics -- posing an existential threat to an already creaky democratic process. And the inveterate lying orange weasel Russia tried to help elect as your next president (shivers roll up and down the spine) who receives weekly intelligence briefings, not the semi-daily briefings the mere mortals who preceded him thought vitally important, of course dismisses the finding, and, much like you, does his damnedest to divert attention to the irrelevant and piss ant.

Shit! Why do I have this feeling that whenever I get into it with you, I'm chasing after a greased pig? You cannot possibly be that obtuse. Right?

  

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toim4018Thu Dec-22-16 12:33 PM
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#11. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I could say the same about you, but sometimes I like to make comments to see the reactions of others. It seems to bring out their true personality when you aggravate them a little You may not believe it but I am far from obtuse. Granted I do have my weak points, sometimes I know what I want to say but have a hard time putting it in words.

In some area of the country maybe they did influence it, but I can't see how a cyber attack would have influenced it in my area. There are paper ballots and the machines are not online in anyway.

  

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jazz4freeThu Dec-22-16 12:46 PM
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#12. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I could say the same about you, but sometimes I like to make comments to see the reactions of others.


Yeah, you could say it...

What follows your "but" is a succinct description of trolling.

  

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toim4018Thu Dec-22-16 01:59 PM
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#14. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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My comments are my opinion. Unlike the propaganda you spill out. Your comments reveal your true personality.

  

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#15. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Your comments reveal your true personality.


I hope so. I try not to be a hypocrite.

  

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#16. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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My comments are my opinion. Unlike the propaganda you spill out. Your comments reveal your true personality.

I'm pretty sure what he says are his opinions and are no more propaganda than yours.Like Trump I suppose the liberal media is out to get him and his tweets and actions are blown out of proportion?I have a feeling that a lot that voted for Trump in 6 months are going to be saying my god what have I done?

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 01:07 AM
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#18. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Sometimes I think Trump can be arrogant and needs to think before speaks or tweets things.

As far as people regretting voting for him, that may come to be. Just as people regretted voting for Obama. With Clinton's history and agenda I could not support her or trust her. I have my concerns with Trump but less than I had with her. She lost for a reason.

As for James I get the impression that he thinks he knows it all and anyone that has an opinion other that what his is wrong. Never met anyone that knew it all but have met a lot that lack common sense.

Seems like posters on here try to put down others that don't share their opinion by calling them stupid, but in larger words. Just because a person likes to use more elaborate terms doesn't make them smarter. He may come across in person a different way than he does online and I would hope that he does.

  

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jazz4freeFri Dec-23-16 01:32 AM
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#19. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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What you see is what you get. You should have kept that in mind when you voted for Trump.

  

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#20. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I have my concerns with Trump but less than I had with her.


So, you were and are concerned less with pathological narcissism, divisive fear mongering, press baiting, religious and racial bigotry, cruel and childish mockery of physical disability, misogyny that manifested itself in vile sexual assault, and in serial displays of dangerous ignorance in foreign affairs than what exactly in his opponent?

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 02:15 AM
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#22. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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She is not trustworthy, both are crooks, anti-gun and a long list of things. She couldn't keep an email account secure. Having her would have been like 4 more years of Obama.

So what in your opinion is so good about her?

  

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#23. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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QUOTE:Having her would have been like 4 more years of Obama.

You should be so lucky!

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So what in your opinion is so good about her?

In absolute terms, not much. Compared to Trump - infinity.



Paul D

  

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jazz4freeFri Dec-23-16 09:33 AM
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#25. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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She's reasonably sane, and she isn't a fascist. America, much like we here in Francophone Canada, has only flirted with fascism in the past. Perhaps your upcoming four-year dose of it, should you and us peripherals manage to survive it, will prove enlightening.

BTW, your list of reasons...pathetic.

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 02:04 AM
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#21. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I don't see anything other than an arrogant posts, maybe you need to look in the mirror before you criticize others.

I hope Trump proves everyone wrong. I could not in good conscience vote for Clinton. I have only met a couple people who will admit voting for her.

  

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jazz4freeFri Dec-23-16 09:18 AM
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#24. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Fri Dec-23-16 11:04 AM by jazz4free

  

          

Arrogance is my middle name. And since I'm 72 years old, much like Count Dracula, I try to avoid looking into mirrors. Even when I shave I do it with only one eye slightly open.

Why am I not surprised you have met only two people who admit to voting for Hillary. My omniscient sainted grandfather once told me, show me your friends and you'll show me what you are. Maybe a trip into the big city once in a while, eh?

When you get there, you'll learn that two and a half million more Americans voted for the lady than they did for the oligarch.

And hoping that Trump will do good during his presidency is sadly much like a woman who hopes her drunken, lecherous boyfriend will stop beating her once they are married.

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays!

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 12:04 PM
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#26. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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When I say I have only met 2 or 3 people who voted for her, I am not talking about my circle of friends. I travel a large area in my job and deal with hundreds of people. Most chat about politics and only a few have admitted to supporting here.

Geographically Trump carried more area. The big cities are part of the problem and who would want only a few large cities to decide for the whole country.


Merry Christmas!

  

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KJTFri Dec-23-16 01:16 PM
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#27. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I predict very soon, if Pres. elect Trump turns out to be as bad a President as he is a President-elect, that, in your travels, you won't find anyone who admits to voting for him.

Jim.

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 01:31 PM
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#28. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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What has he done bad? Unhappy with his cabinet picks? Unhappy with his tweets?

  

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#30. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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He has appointed people who are unfit for their jobs. He contradicts his own positions every time he speaks. He has no attention span. He is totally unaware of the consequences of his positions. He has no regard for truth. He is immune to critical analysis. His beliefs show no relationship to reality. He takes credit for developments he only imagines he influenced. He has no understanding of adhering to the rule of law.

This is but a partial list of his failings. Knowing that he will be the President I had hoped he would understand the consequences of his actions and be a successful President, but I have not seen any realization in his actions that offer any hope of this. Instead I see tragidy for the nation that I fought for and risked my life for so manhy years ago. In my eighty yeasr of life I have earned the right to fear for my country.

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jbmcmillanFri Dec-23-16 04:13 PM
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#31. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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His last 24 hrs of tweets should make you very afraid from restarting the nuclear arms race to maybe making people lose their jobs at Lockheed-Martin to forming foreign policy even before he becomes president.His shooting from the hip without any thought to ramifications is very frightening.If this is what the people that voted for him wanted then they aren't any brighter than the idiot.

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 05:54 PM
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#32. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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What about all the idiots that voted for Obama? Not sure how he won a second term as anyone I know that voted for him the first time didn't the second time. Seems like most of his support comes from people on assistance programs. He has made it harder on the working class and small businesses. I think Trump will help the economy but I have concerns with foreign issues. He says what he thinks and we all know we need to be more tactful at times.

  

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#33. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I have no doubt that in the long run history will rate Obama right up there with the best US Presidents. On the other hand Trump will undoubtedly set a new low benchmark that hopefully will never be reached again.

You have concerns with foreign issues? So does the rest of the free world, but to far too many conservative Americans the USA's responsibilities to the rest of the world don't matter.




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jbmcmillanFri Dec-23-16 07:33 PM
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#34. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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The world had a tough time since 2008 and if you want to blame that on Obama that's your opinion.The statistics say otherwise by any metric maybe if congress had at least played along a little during the last 8 years instead of being obstructionist you all might be a little better off.Paul is correct in saying history will judge Obama's presidency as one of the good ones.Keep justifying his outbursts as just needing some more tact.That comes under you can't be serious.

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 08:37 PM
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#35. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Obamacare is a large problem he created plus some of his clean energy programs have lost a lot of jobs in my state not counting the out of pocket costs. Real easy for someone across the border to say he is good when it has not impacted you living with the effects of his policies.

Some of you seem to be able to predict the future with all your statements.

  

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#36. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Clean energy is a necessity not a policy.I'm guessing you're in a coal producing state.There will be everyone feeling the pain if Trump doesn't follow through on clean energy not just coal jobs.If the US a put a curb on insurance companies Obamacare could have been so much better.This thing with NAFTA Trump doesn't seem to realize that for 35 States Canada is their biggest trading partner.There is much more and you don't need to be a fortune teller with all the indications so far that Drumpf is an accident waiting to happen.

  

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 09:38 PM
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#37. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Coal keeps a lot of lights on. The drilling ban is premature in my opinion. Obama urns more than his share flying to Hawaii on taxpayer money.

  

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#38. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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At least you're no longer attempting to disguise the trolling. Not just one, but three baits in the water this time.

You're a complete waste of time and energy.

  

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toim4018Mon Dec-26-16 01:49 PM
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#39. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I am far from trolling.

You may say someone is a waste of time and energy but others mat say the say about you. You are the one that choose to make negative comments about others. Evidently you did not get wiser with age.

I just can't figure out why everyone on here is so anti-Trump when the majority of people supported him except for most of the large cities. Would anyone want just New York, L.A. and a few other large cities to determine an election? There were a few that seemed to try and balance the discussion out that either left or got banned, maybe they got intimidated but not me.

Let's just hope Obama doesn't do anymore crazy executive orders in the next few weeks.

  

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#40. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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My New Year's resolution is to be more tolerant of dupes who enable despots. So, you'll have to wait until 2017 for the new and wiser me.

  

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#41. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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My New Year's resolution is to be more tolerant of dupes who enable despots. So, you'll have to wait until 2017 for the new and wiser me.


You can't make a comment without calling someone a name. You think you are so smart by making snide comments. I sincerely hope you are are better person face to face than you are behind the keyboard. I also doubt you will change anything come 2017. You are a typical leftist.

Happy New Year!

  

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#43. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I'm a prototypical communist.

  

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#65. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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That explains a lot about you.

I feel sorry for you.

  

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#42. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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So as you see it the majority of Americans support Trump as long as you don't count the majority of Americans who don't support him?

You have a wierd, twisted view of democracy if you believe that the value of your vote is determined by where you live.




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#44. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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A. By your self-provided definition, you're trolling.

B. James is wise. It's unfortunate that you don't see it.

C. Trump, what can I say. It's unfortunate that you don't see this either. Perhaps you will in time.

D. Most alt-right types who left weren't banned or intimidated. They got bored or exhausted wasting their time and energy. Anyone who was banned wasn't banned for being conservative - they were banned based on their behavior. Alt-left types who behaved similarly would be likewise banned in my opinion. I don't have any part in those decisions.

E. Cities don't vote. People in cities vote. What you're ascribing to, and what the current electoral college system does, is devalue the vote of city-dwellers. By the most recent count I have seen, 2.83 million votes (Clinton's advantage over Trump) count for absolutely nothing.

F. Obama will announce the end of the world decreed by executive order in the next few weeks though it may take too long to implement but Trump will be so busy dismantling Obama-care that he will fail to notice and the end will come, thus eliminating the need to meddle with Obama-care.

G. If I were you, I'd be very watchful of real Republicans. They're more than likely to attempt to derail Trump's plans (does he really have plans?) in conjunction with like-minded Democrats.

Jim.

  

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#45. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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A:
I for one never defined it. I guess since I state my opinions and they don't agree with others it is considered an argument. You can view me the way you want I can care less.

B:
I sincerely hope he is wiser than he comes across on here. Probably his bullish attitude comes across to much along with his lack of respect.

C:
Clinton's faults outweigh his in my opinion.

D:
I saw people bragging about one member that got banned because he didn't agree with others.

E:
Why should a few big cities decide for the whole country? I would not want New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles and a few others to decide for the whole US. Trump won more counties, just because a few with more people were lost. So I take it that you don't agree with the electoral college?

F:
So you agree with some of his orders he has done?
I hope some get over ridden.

G:
I agree there are a lot of politicians that need to be watched on both sides of the aisle. One reason I think term limits should apply to all. It was not meant to be a career.

  

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#46. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Why should a few big cities decide for the whole country?


Because cities are where the smart people live?

But no, neither should the collective opinion of big cities or of Main Street choose your president. He or she should be chosen by the popular vote.

When your nation was about to be born, the electoral college was a bone tossed to the slave owning states who wanted their human property counted as citizens. They were worth 2/3rds of a white man in the census, and so would increase the influence of these mainly agrarian states in choosing a president in the electoral college. The system is antiquated and undemocratic and should have been dumped when your civil war was decided.

Instead, the "poorly educated" continue to elect your presidents, a situation of which Trump was well aware and of which he took full advantage. He's confessed to loving you because of that. And well he should.

Perhaps he will reward you.

  

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#50. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Why should a few big cities decide for the whole country?


Because cities are where the smart people live?

But no, neither should the collective opinion of big cities or of Main Street choose your president. He or she should be chosen by the popular vote.

When your nation was about to be born, the electoral college was a bone tossed to the slave owning states who wanted their human property counted as citizens. They were worth 2/3rds of a white man in the census, and so would increase the influence of these mainly agrarian states in choosing a president in the electoral college. The system is antiquated and undemocratic and should have been dumped when your civil war was decided.

Instead, the "poorly educated" continue to elect your presidents, a situation of which Trump was well aware and of which he took full advantage. He's confessed to loving you because of that. And well he should.

Perhaps he will reward you.

There you go trying to start more arguments, saying if someone vote for Trump they "are poorly educated ".

Smart people live everywhere, I was smart enough to get out of a big city. Some people makes choices to better themselves. Too many nut cases in the cities.

I am glad you feel like a big man trying to put people down for where they live.

  

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#51. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Respect is earned not given and his prose goes over your head for the most part taking things he says literally.The smart people comment was just poking fun and not really serious.He and I for that matter figure you're trolling so I guess he's returning the favour.Trump's antics through twitter and statements alarm us but I guess not you.I guess aggravating China sounds like a good idea as well and before you say you agree with him on that there are other ways besides making uncomplimentary and sounding like a rube remarks over twitter to form foreign policy. Did you see the fake news that threatened to start a nuclear confrontation so it's not hard to imagine Trump starting something he can't finish through thoughtless remarks.So we think he desrves the criticism heaped on him around here and he hasn't even officially started.

  

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toim4018Mon Dec-26-16 09:04 PM
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#52. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Can you be sure he was poking fun?

As for earning respect he sure goes about a funny way. There were a few people on here that I did respect for their computer knowledge until I started reading this part of the forum. Now I question that.

As far as new either real or fake, everyone jumps on Trump news but no comments at all on Obama news. Is that because everyone here is pro Obama?

  

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#53. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Because we don't get our Obama news from Breitbart and he doesn't really do anything outrageous that could accidentally cause a world war.You may not agree with policy but at least you don't have to worry about inintended consequences because he doesn't have an effing clue.The only thing lately is the UN vote which I happen to agree with you can support a nation without supporting what the world outside of Israel thinks is illegal colonizing.

  

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toim4018Mon Dec-26-16 10:35 PM
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Just one example I will bring up, everyone was criticizing Trump for his phone call on here with Taiwan but no one mentioned Obama selling them arms.

  

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#61. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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The US has been selling arms to Taiwan since 1979 this is not a new thing started by Obama so stop making it seem like it by that statement.Reagan,Bush Clinton, Carter every one of them since then.Non issue as it relates to Trump shooting his mouth off.

  

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Clinton and Obama have done more than anyone.

  

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#66. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Sorry that would be Bush if you went on a yearly number but that's not the issue. You tried to make it seem like Obama started it or something which is a distortion along with your welfare comments.Obamacare you fix it not scrap it but I have a feeling you don't like paying for those poor smucks.What you don't seem to realize you pay either with insurance or more with ER visits without it.Immigration stance what turn undocumented into tax payers or spend billions deporting them.But I guess it seems more your style to throw em out.Or maybe suspend your precious constitution to maybe do it cheaper. Unless it's the second amendment I guess.Pick and choose the rights to suspend making sure it's none of yours.You're a stereotype if you believe that tripe or a troll not sure which.

  

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#67. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Sorry that would be Bush if you went on a yearly number but that's not the issue. You tried to make it seem like Obama started it or something which is a distortion along with your welfare comments.Obamacare you fix it not scrap it but I have a feeling you don't like paying for those poor smucks.What you don't seem to realize you pay either with insurance or more with ER visits without it.Immigration stance what turn undocumented into tax payers or spend billions deporting them.But I guess it seems more your style to throw em out.Or maybe suspend your precious constitution to maybe do it cheaper. Unless it's the second amendment I guess.Pick and choose the rights to suspend making sure it's none of yours.You're a stereotype if you believe that tripe or a troll not sure which.


If you research it one of the biggest Bush deals did not happen. So that make Clinton and Obama the biggest sellers. Everyone trashed him over a phone call while China complained about the arms sales Obama administration made. This forum is like the media, biased.

Obamacare can be fixed but it would be a massive fix.
Why should I pay for the "poor smucks" as you call them?
I have not been to the ER but once since 2008. I pay more for the insurance and more for any procedure I have done, so I have to pay twice according to your reasoning. Why should able bodied people not have to work for their healthcare as I do? Are they more privileged?


Immigration, we have a process in place to come here legally. Allowing illegals to become legal is smacking those that did it legally in the face.

So what do you not agree with in our constitution? It is yours also.

  

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#78. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Quote:
QUOTE:
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Sorry that would be Bush if you went on a yearly number but that's not the issue. You tried to make it seem like Obama started it or something which is a distortion along with your welfare comments.Obamacare you fix it not scrap it but I have a feeling you don't like paying for those poor smucks.What you don't seem to realize you pay either with insurance or more with ER visits without it.Immigration stance what turn undocumented into tax payers or spend billions deporting them.But I guess it seems more your style to throw em out.Or maybe suspend your precious constitution to maybe do it cheaper. Unless it's the second amendment I guess.Pick and choose the rights to suspend making sure it's none of yours.You're a stereotype if you believe that tripe or a troll not sure which.


If you research it one of the biggest Bush deals did not happen. So that make Clinton and Obama the biggest sellers. Everyone trashed him over a phone call while China complained about the arms sales Obama administration made. This forum is like the media, biased.

Obamacare can be fixed but it would be a massive fix.
Why should I pay for the "poor smucks" as you call them?
I have not been to the ER but once since 2008. I pay more for the insurance and more for any procedure I have done, so I have to pay twice according to your reasoning. Why should able bodied people not have to work for their healthcare as I do? Are they more privileged?


Immigration, we have a process in place to come here legally. Allowing illegals to become legal is smacking those that did it legally in the face.

So what do you not agree with in our constitution? It is yours also.'




Actually if you look it up on a yearly basis even without the large deal you talked about Bush still made the list as the highest but that isn't even the point.Why would we mention arms sales when it has gone on through Republican and Democrat administrations.


Healthcare without insurance poor people wait instead of getting timely care because they can't afford seeing a doctor.They then end up in the ER which is the most expensive way to treat people so you pay for it anyway not twice just more.I wasn't talking about your ER visits which don't matter you're insured.You can't really be that obtuse.


Immigration well you already have over 11 million people instead of just spending billions getting rid of them why don't you make them part of the tax base.Stop getting hung up on Trumpisms and deal with reality and the most cost effective way going forward.Contrary to Trump's assertions the majority are good people some aren't but not really above any average you could cite.But you aren't interested in facts or truth just like Trump.

Constitution well what methods I've seen Trump spout about Illegals it would require suspending parts of your constitution to achieve.I guess that doesn't bother you.All people have rights according to it but as long it doesn't require messing with the second amendment you're fine.James is poking at you because based on things you're saying you come across as the typical Trump supporter not interested in facts just slogans.It's not my constitution btw I like ours better we aren't overrun with guns when every Tom ,Dick and Harry is packing a handgun enshrined in it.We have gun violence as well but ours seem like sunday school picnics compared to yours.

  

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#79. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You got even agree with your previous comments.
I am not a typical Trump supporter just someone willing to give him a chance. If he turns out to be bad I will gladly admit I am wrong. I doubt you and others will be willing to admit you are wrong if he turns out to be good.

As far as guns look at Chicago that has strict gun control and their gun problems. Doesn't seem to be the answer does it?

Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong.

  

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#80. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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As far as guns look at Chicago that has strict gun control and their gun problems. Doesn't seem to be the answer does it?


Strict gun control in one tiny spot when a 10 minute drive there isn't any to speak of you guys really need to stop pointing at Chicago as proof of anything regarding gun control.I haven't contradicted myself on anything I'm aware I'm pretty consistent in my beliefs.We can disagree and it doesn't mean I'm right but looking at evidence so far giving him a chance could very well be a disaster.It it didn't have ominous overtones for us being neighbors I wouldn't give a crap.

  

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#54. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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That is nonsense!

Slaves were unable to vote under any circumstances, they were property. Owning a slave was akin to owning a horse. in theelectoral process.

The electoral college purpose was to prevent states from being ignored in the electoral process as being insignificant.

Shelly

  

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#55. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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They weren't able to vote but they were counted in the census:

The Three-Fifths Clause of the United States Constitution (1787) - See more at: http://www.blackpast.org/aah/three-fifths-clause-united-states-constitution-1787#sthash.H73r8se3.dpuf

until after the Civil War and Constitutional Amendments 13, 14, and 15.

Jim.

  

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#56. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Does it still not serve the same purpose? Would you agree with the results if it was what a few large cities decided? Especially if they went against your pick?

  

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#59. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Repeat after me: Cities don't vote. People vote. Cities don't vote. People vote.

But people who voted who happen to live in cities apparently don't count. They might just as well have stayed home. Sad.

Jim.



  

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#60. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Repeat after me: Cities don't vote. People vote. Cities don't vote. People vote.

But people who voted who happen to live in cities apparently don't count. They might just as well have stayed home. Sad.

Jim.





Very true, we voted and we have a winner. Just a bunch of sore losers, that mocked Trump when he made comments about not accepting results if he lost. Now it is the other side that can't accept the results.

My point is that a few big cities should not decide what goes for the whole country. Would you like it California, New York and Florida had all the say, leaving Ohio out of it?

If you don't like the system talk to your representatives. Politicians campaign based on the electoral college and if it is changed to popular vote they will change their strategy.

  

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#63. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Do you spend time studying to be this obtuse, or is it congenital?

It's like having a discussion with the proverbial brick wall.

  

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#58. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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There you go trying to start more arguments, saying if someone vote for Trump they "are poorly educated ".


There are other motivations, to be sure. Fear, envy, hatred, avarice, bigotry, racism, the pathological and pathetic need for a Messiah. I listened to Trump for a year and a half as he campaigned. During all that time I did not hear him once appeal to "the better angels of our nature." Instead we were treated to a steady, well-measured and strategically directed dosage of vulgarity and vitriol. He appealed only to the degradation I've mentioned above. He offered slogans instead of policy, fantastical imagining in place of pragmatic solution. And you professed to admire him because he said what he thought. But all that he said was vile and hurtful. Hurtful often to those who were defenseless.

And yet you voted for him, because, as you say, you trusted him more than the lady who mishandled her email account...and, oh yeah, some other stuff.

So, what other explanation can there be?

You must see that we are left for a reason for the Trump vote with either ignorance (perhaps willful) or bigotry or a pathetic combination of both.

Sad, ain't it?

  

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#62. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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And yet you voted for him, because, as you say, you trusted him more than the lady who mishandled her email account...and, oh yeah, some other stuff.


Numerous reason not to vote for her, here are a few:

1.
I don't think Obamacare would get changed any, my healthcare premiums have tripled under it and I have less coverage. It has hurt small businesses, self employed and numerous others. I will give it credit that it does have some good points but they are outweighed by the bad in my opinion and lots of others. Some people argue that it helps people without coverage, I will agree to some extent but it should not enable people not to work for it.

2.
Welfare has went up under him and I think she would continue it.
There are lots of able bodied people that could work that won't because of welfare. I know there are some people that need it but others make a lifestyle out of it.

3.
Clinton's stance on gun control.

4.
Her immigration stance.

5.
Benghazi incident.

Her tax plan sound ok though.
I would voted for her back in 2008 over Obama. I think it is funny how Obama trashed her in 2008 and turned around and bragged on her this year.

Washington need change and I hope Trump can get it done but with her I think it would have been the same old Washington. Time will tell if Trump is a mistake or not.

I think the main reason he won is because people were fed up with the same old thing happening in Washington. He may not be any better than what we have but I voted for who I felt would be best overall.

Quote:

So, what other explanation can there be?


You seem to get off on putting people down.
I did not vote that way because being "poorly educated" but because of being highly educated. Regardless of education one of the most lacking things I see today is common sense.

I am glad you get a kick out trying to insult me, at least you are leaving some other person alone.

  

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#68. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You seem to get off on putting people down.


Since sex would probably kill me, I gotta get my kicks somehow.

But back to your man, Trump. So, you don't mind that he's a vile excuse for a human being who just might, in one of his many fits of childish temper, end civilization as we know it, just as long as he maybe saves you a buck or two and shakes up the bums in Washington a bit.

Sounds reasonable.

  

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#69. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Hopefully Trump is sensible enough to not make that mistake, and I believe he is.

Meanwhile the White House says this is one of Obama's greatest accomplishments:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/white-house-lists-same-sex-marriage-top-obama-achievement-social?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=facebook&utm_medium=cnsnews&utm_term=facebook&utm_content=n-defense-marriage

  

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#70. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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#71. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Does it not worry you that the only two international leaders who backed Trump are Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un?



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#74. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Why should it? That can be a good sign. We elect a president of the US not what everyone else wants.

  

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#72. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Well, that's reassuring. So, we all can sleep sound again?

Edit: Stole this one from someone I just caught online. Couldn't resist -- thought it perfect: "You're baffling to anyone with a functioning brain stem."

  

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toim4018Tue Dec-27-16 12:42 PM
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#75. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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So you admit you don't have a brain attached to your stem?
Maybe that explains things now.

  

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#76. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Possibly. Who'da thought there'd be two of us on the same board? You and me, that's one for Ripley.

  

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#77. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You admitted it about yourself.
You are the type that thinks they are smarter and better than everyone else. So sad.

  

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#81. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You admitted it about yourself.


I did, didn't I? It's called taking the piss out of oneself. Not taking oneself too seriously.

You seem unfamiliar with the concept. Now, that is sad.

  

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#82. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I don't know to take you seriously or not. You come across as an arrogant know it all. Maybe in person you are not but I will never know.

Not sure why the majority of Canadians I have meet in person seem to have an arrogant attitude, maybe it is something with all the cold weather up there. I work with a lot of Canadians so I am not basing this on just s few people.

I will gladly admit in 4 years or sooner if he goofs up before then that Trump was a mistake. If he does good will you admit you were wrong?

I am guess you and several others on here are not man enough to admit you have made a mistake.

  

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#83. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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If he does good will you admit you were wrong?


If he does my version of good I'll admit I was wrong.

But If he does your version of good there probably won't be a soul left alive on the planet to admit squat.

  

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#84. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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If he does good will you admit you were wrong?


If he does my version of good I'll admit I was wrong.

But If he does your version of good there probably won't be a soul left alive on the planet to admit squat.

You are something else. Your version? Trump or anyone else is not here to please you. I knew you were not man enough to admit you were wrong.

You think you know it all and no one else knows anything.
People with your attitude are part of the world's problems. Lack of common sense seems to stand out or you are just senile.

  

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#85. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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James's version of good is based on the greatest good for the greatest number. And yes, that extends outside the USA.

Your version of good is very clearly based on the the greatest good for you.

I'll take James's version any day, thanks.




Paul D

  

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#86. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You think you know it all and no one else knows anything.


You're very mistaken about James.

But, good lord, you've nailed Trump. Anyone who knows more than the "Generals", the CIA, the FBI, the Supreme Court, fellow Republicans, Democrats especially Pres. Obama, and most everyone else, certainly fits your description.

Jim.

OOPS. Meant to reply to toim. Sorry,

  

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#87. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You think you know it all and no one else knows anything.


You're very mistaken about James.

But, good lord, you've nailed Trump. Anyone who knows more than the "Generals", the CIA, the FBI, the Supreme Court, fellow Republicans, Democrats especially Pres. Obama, and most everyone else, certainly fits your description.

Jim.

OOPS. Meant to reply to toim. Sorry,



And what does Obama know so much about? Really said what the WH thinks is his greatest accomplishment is.

  

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#88. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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QUOTE:

James's version of good is based on the greatest good for the greatest number. And yes, that extends outside the USA.

Your version of good is very clearly based on the the greatest good for you.

I'll take James's version any day, thanks.




Paul D

Our President should the citizens of the US first.
What would be good for me would be good for millions of Americans, the average middle class. We are the ones paying for what the free loaders get. I see lack of common sense knows no borders. Amazes me how clueless some people are when they think they know it all.

  

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#90. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Amazes me how clueless some people are when they think they know it all.


Perhaps we can take up a collection to buy you a mirror.

Jim.

  

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#92. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I admit when I don't know it all, unlike others.

  

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#94. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Lack of common sense seems to stand out or you are just senile.


Hmm...come to think of it, there are days. But I'm old, have you an equivalent excuse?

Never mind, I really don't give a damn.

Your ignorance is palpable -- it's only exceed by your boneheaded certitude, your egocentric conceit and your complete lack of a sense of humor. Humorless people are a bummer.

To make it easier for you, in words you won't have to look up: you're a jackass.

Oh, and before this old codger begins to sundown: about folks like me being the root of all the problems in the world...coincidentally, I've been suspecting something very similar about you.

You may continue now to confirm my suspicion.

  

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#95. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You do some of your best work in the morning.

Jim.

  

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#97. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You he must full of it in the mornings. I am glad he gets off on calling people names. He must feel like a big man.

  

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#96. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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QUOTE:
Lack of common sense seems to stand out or you are just senile.


Hmm...come to think of it, there are days. But I'm old, have you an equivalent excuse?

Never mind, I really don't give a damn.

Your ignorance is palpable -- it's only exceed by your boneheaded certitude, your egocentric conceit and your complete lack of a sense of humor. Humorless people are a bummer.

To make it easier for you, in words you won't have to look up: you're a jackass.

Oh, and before this old codger begins to sundown: about folks like me being the root of all the problems in the world...coincidentally, I've been suspecting something very similar about you.

You may continue now to confirm my suspicion.



I too am old, just not quite as old as you are.

Been called hard headed numerous times but not sure about boneheaded. Maybe you are the first.

I have a great sense of humor and her I thought you were humorless.

I am glad you feel like a big person by calling people names. Most forums would ban someone over that, guess not this one. I have called you arrogant but never called you names. You say you are a old man but have the attitude of a young kid.

You just don't like the fact that others have a opinion different that yours. People with closed minds are the most boneheaded.

  

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#98. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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I have a great sense of humor


Yeah, you're a riot.


Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

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#99. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Very funny.

We will have to agree to disagree I guess.

I think we both want what is best for all but see it differently.
I am done with this as neither one of us is going to change our opinion.
Time will tell If Trump is a mistake or not, hopefully for all of us he is not.

James, I am going to try and drop this on a good note as there are better ways to spend my time. Hopefully everyone else can.

Have a Happy New Year!

  

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#100. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Post #100. Goodnight, Gracie!

  

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#103. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Post #100. Goodnight, Gracie!

Drops mic?

  

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#48. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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The electoral college is a bastardisation of what was originally intended. It was never the intention of the instigators that a candidate with a minuscule minority in a given state get all that state's EC votes, a situation which is clearly absurd, and equally absurd in blue states as in red ones.



Paul D

  

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#101. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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And no response to this from he who brought up the EC in the first place?



Paul D

  

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#102. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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And no response to this from he who brought up the EC in the first place?



Paul D


Who are you directing this at?

  

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#47. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You could only get up to G? I would have run out of alphabet.

Shelly

  

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#49. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You could only get up to G? I would have run out of alphabet.

Me too, but I was replying to his list.

  

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#73. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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There were a few that seemed to try and balance the discussion out that either left or got banned, maybe they got intimidated but not me.


Great! Please don't ever leave, you're too much fun. I think I'm falling in love.

  

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jazz4freeFri Dec-23-16 02:54 PM
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#29. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Oh, you've opened yet another juicy door -- there's so much I could say. But I'm more about eating roast turkey this weekend than chasing greased pig.

Merry Christmas and God help us, everyone! Especially the child of ignorance, whom we are told to fear the most. Help him to see the light before it's too f'n late.

  

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jasonlevineThu Dec-22-16 01:59 PM
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#13. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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The didn't "hack the election" via breaking into voting machines and altering votes. They did it by breaking into the DNC and RNC computer systems, releasing damaging information from the DNC hacks (but not the RNC hacks), and by releasing fake news stories to make the Democrats look even worse. In other words, they altered the public's view of the candidates to benefit Trump. This was enough to tilt the election in Trump's favor.

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toim4018Fri Dec-23-16 12:53 AM
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#17. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Guess what happened in Detroit was ok then?

  

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toim4018Wed Dec-28-16 04:40 AM
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#89. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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The didn't "hack the election" via breaking into voting machines and altering votes. They did it by breaking into the DNC and RNC computer systems, releasing damaging information from the DNC hacks (but not the RNC hacks), and by releasing fake news stories to make the Democrats look even worse. In other words, they altered the public's view of the candidates to benefit Trump. This was enough to tilt the election in Trump's favor.


Curious as to how you know there was damaging information in the RNC hacks also? Do you have inside info? Maybe there wasn't any bad stuff in the RNC system, who truly knows.

The media comes up with enough fake stories on their own, they didn't need anyone's help. Most of the media was pro Hillary anyway, I was tired of them trying to push their choice. There job is to report the news not their views.

  

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jbmcmillanWed Dec-28-16 07:32 AM
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#91. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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You remind me of someone that sticks their fingers in their ears and says lalalala real loud so they can't hear what you're saying.I'm done what a joke.

  

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toim4018Wed Dec-28-16 11:34 AM
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#93. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Wed Dec-28-16 11:44 AM by toim4018

          

You must know from experience.

Seriously though just because I disagree with your opinion I am automatically wrong. I guess you have never been wrong at all in your life, or your just too full of your self to admit it.

Some people just can't handle the truth.

  

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jbmcmillanThu Dec-22-16 01:18 AM
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#6. "RE: FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election"
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Ok why isn't it national news?It's never specified who got the "extra" votes.The only thing I could find with a quick search about Chicago was Brietbat shit crazy and another right wing fringe newspaper.I suppose you're rejecting the intelligence reports as well?This by no means constitutes widespread by any stretch. Trump lashing out on twitter I suppose fits your idea of presidential behaviour?

  

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